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"Mary Jozwiak BS, IBCLC, RLC" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:30:58 -0400
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This issue has been addressed and answered on Lactnet nearly ad nauseum in 
the last week.

As of April 23rd, the judge has ordered ALL children under 12 months back into 
the care of their mothers, as well as many other children, as long as the 
children and mothers are in a safe environment.  Meaning, they do not, at this 
time return to the ranch. (It's in every paper and news report I have seen the 
last five days....) 

Seeing as most children in this Cult are born only a year or so apart, it seems 
unlikely there are many nursing toddlers. (I didn't say none, I said 'few.') I 
agree that all children should be with their mothers...... as long as the mothers 
agree not to allow them to be raped, but, that is what these mothers  have 
been doing until the raid.

From what I have read, the mothers who chose to return to the FLDS ranch 
can get their children back, as soon as they obey court orders and keep their 
children away from the place where rape of young girls and plural, faux 
marriages against their will are a way of life. At least until the court can 
determine the risk to the children's well being. (Rape is notoriously bad for a 
young girl's well being....) 

The fathers may have done the actual rapes, but the mothers did nothing to 
protect their own young. That is why the children were taken in the first 
place. (The original "phone call" is immaterial.) The only innocent people in this 
case are the children. 

Think about this: If these women were living in a Trailer Park, and AIM feeding 
their babies, letting 50 yr old men have sex with their young daughters, and 
the Law came in and removed the children for safety, how many of us would 
be "outraged?" 

THAT is all I am going to say about that. I have a feeling this is going to be 
getting off topic, and the scope of this case is  far MORE than just 
breastfeeding related, and not what Lactnet was created for. 

Perhaps the List Mothers could weigh in on the appropriateness of this 
subject. IMO, my 3 posts a day can be better spent than this on this issue. 
But, the repeated posts which tell me people simply are looking quickly and 
getting unnecessarily upset at Old News, without knowing the specifics of why 
these children were taken from an unhealthy, violent environment prompted 
me to respond on an issue which I promised myself I wouldn't respond to 
again.  

Sorry if I am prickly, but knowing children were abused in some of the most 
horrible ways overshadows any short time of breastfeeding these mothers may 
or may not do. 

This ISN'T mainly a breastfeeding issue. It is a child abuse issue. And out of 
Lactnet's scope. 

THIS is my last word on this subject. 

Mary Jozwiak IBCLC, RLC, LLLL
Private Practice 

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