Kathy:  The article I was talking about does not specifically mention 
vacuum extractions.  I have the article in front of me and this is now 
direct quotations:  "Common circumstances under which NDEs occur include:  
surgery, accidents, allergic reactions, acute illness, drowning, combat 
trauma, suicide attempts, terminal illness, and childbirth...It is also 
significant to note children have NDEs...One difficulty is that NDE 
experiences may happen to children who are very young - possibly too young 
to talk. Children who experienced difficult births, illnesses or accidents 
at an early age may have had an NDE and consequently, have lingering after 
effects.  My personal comment was that I felt that it might be easy for a 
baby to experience NDE after a vacuum birth, if not done correctly (and not 
all are, I also am an L&D nurse).  The point of my post was to say that I 
found this article to be very thought-provoking with NDE certainly worth 
looking into.  I know there is a website:  www.birthpsychology.com that 
explores similar subjects.
Hope this clarifies things.

Pam Hirsch, BSN,RN,IBCLC
Clinical Lead, Lactation Services
Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital
Barrington, IL   USA

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