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Marianne Vanderveen-Kolkena <[log in to unmask]>
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I know, and I'm sorry for that. I already apologized to Jaye off list.
I just had no quotum left yesterday, to do it straight away on Lactnet 
then... ;-)

Warmly,

Marianne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirkwood, Angela" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: [LACTNET] analogies


Just wanted, with due respect, to clarify that it was not Jaye that made
the initial comment but me.  Not that I am happy to be a target of
negative discussion but dont want some one else to be if they did not
make the comment.
>>"That is a RIDICULOUS analogy... bottles, guns and knives. That is a

> little over the top."

>I have not responsded a post because as I started to, I found a long
discussion would be needed both on my part and then it would initiate
further long discussions.  I am very humbled by the responses and
challenges mentioned with working in such inhumane conditions of
uncleanliness, poverty and generalized pain.  All with the same goal -
happy, healthy mothers and babies.  I respect that in your eyes there is
no difference between guns and bottles.  I still would not choose to
make those analogies but I am blessed to live and work without the worry
of absent sanitation or access to basic human needs.  I dont have the
experience of that lifestyle and the passion one has when living the
experience of watching those babies perish.  One poster mentioned that a
knife may be used for cutting fabric or food and used in a positive
manner for humanity while it has the ability to kill.  I dont disagree.
I do not agree with the same analogy of a bottle and a gun.  The only
result of using a gun is to penetrate the target which will harm or
kill.  The intended use of a bottle is for nourishment not harm.  The
bottle itself is not the object of mortality and morbidity, but what is
put in the bottle and the choices how to use the bottle. I believe you
are referring to the person pulling the trigger, not the gun itself but
I respond that the gun was not intended for nourishment but harming the
target.  I just cant put a bottle and gun in any similar categoy.  The
unethical practices of bottle and formula marketing is the ethical issue
at hand not the the object being the bottle. angie kirkwood bsn, ibclc,
rlc



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