Yeah!
I'm sending off the GIFT packet today!
Ann
Ann Kingrey, RN, IBCLC
Rapides Women's & Children's Hospital
501 Medical Center Drive
Alexandria, LA 71301
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Topics of the day:
1. nipple/breast sandwich -- somewhat OT
2. yummy glop
3. milk and karo syrup
4. BF History
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:18:33 -0500
From: Lisa Mandell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: nipple/breast sandwich -- somewhat OT
I've heard many presentations about the idea of the nipple sandwich or
breast sandwich and asymmetric latch, where the presenter talks about
how we eat a hamburger or another big sandwich by squishing it a
little with our hands and placing it on the lower jaw and then rolling
it in (Diane Weissinger perhaps originated this?). When I've heard
these presentations, and when I've used it myself to demonstrate to
moms, I've often wondered if that is really how we do it. If I think
about how I eat a big sandwich while I'm doing it I influence what I
do, and I never seem to think about it when I watch someone else eat.
If you've had this same question, you might be interested in the
following video. It's a goofy music video by the food critic of the
Philadelphia Inquirer about cheeseburgers, and it has lots of closeups
of people eating large cheeseburgers. And yes, it's just like Diane
says!
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/multimedia/7611352.html
Lisa Mandell, MBA, IBCLC
Havertown, PA USA
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:24:21 -0500
From: Lynn <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: yummy glop
On May 31, 2007, at 6:53 PM, LACTNET automatic digest system wrote:
> Lynn, don't tell me you were fed milk & corn syrup in 1973!!!
Oh, yeah, and that rule about tossing a bottle an hour after it touches
baby's lips? No way. They would take the leftovers from all the day's
bottles, and that's what we got in the last bottle. Any milk could be
heated once and then reheated once.
And I still managed to be a Nat'l Merit Scholar. Of course, I got a
couple days of colostrum. I can't believe I survived, sometimes.
I am a twin, and while we managed a vaginal birth, my poor mom was sent
home a couple days pp with no babies! I don't know how long I was
under lights, but my sister spent 17 days in hospital. My mom's milk
didn't come in for ten days, which is when she quit trying. She
actually had been given a bicycle horn pump to use "a couple times a
day."
Lynn in MO
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:56:38 -0400
From: Diana Cassar-Uhl <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: milk and karo syrup
My mother-in-law, who raised 6 children (born 1962-1972), all partially
breastfed (but is flat out disgusted with my choice to extended nurse my
children and says so), pushes the karo syrup and condensed milk thing all
the time. She says it's good for babies, especially if they're constipated.
The first time I saw her make a bottle of it for my nephew, I about had a
heart attack. I didn't even have kids yet (and so wasn't a lactation junkie
yet), but isn't there a botulism risk from karo syrup?
My husband no longer questions my decision to ask her to visit after my
newborns are several weeks old. We also do not look to her for baby-advice,
which grossly offends her...because my kids are the healthiest and happiest
of all her 13 grandchildren. Even though we are perverted enough to let
them sleep in our bed. :)
--Diana
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 20:03:59 -0700
From: Renee Hefti <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: BF History
Greetings from Vancouver!
I grew up thinking I was breastfed and a few years ago I asked my mother =
how long she fed me. With downcast eyes, she told me she had only fed =
me for 2 weeks. My sister was born in 1941 and was breastfed. I was =
born in 1943 and when my mom took me to the doctor because I was gassy, =
he made her squirt some milk into a vial, held it to the light and =
announced it was no good - too watery. I too, was fed evaporated milk =
and corn syrup. I sucked my thumb for more years than I would like to =
mention and have always "struggled" with my weight.
I wondered why I grew up thinking I was breastfed and I think seeing my =
auntie breastfeeding my cousin had a big impact on me - I was about 6 at =
that time and still have a very clear picture in my mind - down to the =
details of where she was sitting and the curtain.
Many women were told they had to stop breastfeeding because their babies =
were "allergic to their milk" or "lactose intolerant".
In nurses' training, (1962 - 1965) I remember working in the formula =
room. We also added sugar to the "mixture" and I remember there was a =
disastrous mistake in a Canadian Hospital, when salt was added instead =
of sugar.
By 1968 we had ready made formulas and all the "free" goodies that went =
along with this relationship. The value of the "free" goodies escalated =
over the next 25 years to include huge monetary gifts (up to 5 million =
dollars for signing a contract) until we finally said "NO MORE". The =
young nurses, of today, are shocked when we tell them what was going on. =
The fact that some women actually succeeded in breastfeeding during =
these years is amazing.=20
Renee Hefti - Graham
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