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The Breys <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 30 May 1999 17:38:00 -0500
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> To: Jill Lund wrote:
>
>
> I am sorry but I don't agree with your assumption.  Many of the mom's who
> indicate breastfeeding on labor admission and then quit within 24-36
hours
> of delivery really "don't want too!'.
>
> I usto feel as you did that they just didn't have enough info.  So, I'd
> courageously go to there room and try to 'inform' them about
breastfeedings
> wonderful benefits.  They shake their heads 'yes' they agree it is
better,
> but 'It's not for me, I'm not comfortable, I don't want to, bring me a
> bottle'.  Believe me, my unit is very supportive of breastfeeding, not
> perfect, but from reading the list groups and other units problems my
unit
> is way ahead in promotion and support.
>
> I usto think if you offered to stand on your head whistling dixie to help
> them succeed that is all it would take.  What really happened is these
moms
> would agree to what they thought they were supposed to agree to and quit
> immediately discharging from the hospital.  Then they would go to their
> physican and complain that they felt 'forced' to breastfeed.
>
> Now, if someone tells me 'no', I explore what decided them to breastfeed
in
> the first place.  If after discussing this with them they still want
> formula, I get it and go work with someone who REALLY wants to
breastfeed.
>
> JMHO,
> Lucy
>
> ----------
> > From: Jill Lund <[log in to unmask]>
> > To:
> > Subject: I Can't = Don't Want to???
> > Date: Saturday, May 29, 1999 12:50 AM
> >
> >     Someone wrote "I can't" might mean "I don't want to" when a mom has
> > stopped breastfeeding early on.  Is she really stopping because she
> doesn't
> > want to breastfeed?
> >     I don't believe the majority of women who quit in 2 weeks quit
> because
> > they never really wanted to breastfeed in the first place.  Why can't
we
> > admit women are not getting the support they need to continue when they
> quit
> > in 2 weeks??
> >     I believe moms who say "I can't" truly got the message somewhere
that
> > they can't.
> >     The "I can't" message isn't just inside her -- it may be coming
> through
> > a significant other, health care worker, mother, mother-in-law,
neighbor,
> > friend, co-worker, or it may just be her - but I think that would be
> rare.
> >     But if she were strong enough, she could withstand all the pressure
> to
> > not breastfeed, or not continue breastfeeding, right?  Where does this
> "if
> > she really wanted to do it" stuff come from?  (I think I'm scared to
hear
> > the answer to that one.)
> >     Doesn't saying, "she never really wanted to" beg the question of
why
> she
> > tried it in the first place?
> >     "She never really wanted to do what was best for her baby?"  I just
> > don't believe that.
> >     "She never really knew that there are policies at the beautiful
> hospital
> > she toured that might make her doubt herself and not the policy?"  (now
> > we're getting warmer...)
> >     "She never really got the message that her body's milk is the
normal
> > food for her baby and that formula alone is a distant 4th-7th choice?"
I
> > think this is the most likely culprit.
> >     (1st -bfing, 2nd-pumped milk, 3rd banked milk, 4th-bfing with
formula
> > supplements, 5th-....you could even do 2nd choice as bfing with pumped
> milk
> > ....etc. so that eventually formula alone with no breastfeeding or
> > breastmilk would be way down on the choice list - got this idea from
our
> > USDA auditor!!!!! combined with Diane's work)....
> >     As for Oprah, I think she'd be happy to do a show on how
> breastfeeding
> > empowers women.  How breastfeeding isn't something women "should" do --
> it
> > is something they have a right to do.  Okay, anybody have Oprah's url??
> > TIA,
> > Jill Lund, RD, MS
> > St. Louis, Missouri WIC
> >

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