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Jan Barger <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:49:20 -0400
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Pat in SNJ writes
 
<<What I saw 20 years ago, doing visits after 24 hour  discharges, was 
weight regain or gaining by day 4-5.  I wish we had some  real great research on 
what is normal!  Taking all things in  to  consideration that we know.  
IVs, over hydration, real weight at 24-30  hours, access to mom/breast and so 
on.  I think 2 weeks is a disaster  waiting to happen.  I'm personally sure 
that it eventually affects  duration.  Is there a researcher out there who 
needs a topic?  Pat  in SNJ, immersed at moment in old research 80s -  90s>>

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In 2011 Joy Noel-Weiss recommended, based on her  research of maternal 
fluids in labor and infant weight loss, that there should  be a 24 hour 
"reference" weight -- and that weight loss (in percentages) should  be calculated 
from that -- and that the *reference* weight should be reached by  10 days 
rather than the birth weight.  In the US in particular, we are  giving so much 
fluids to moms in labor, often compounded by Pitocin which is an  
anti-diuretic, that we often don't have babies regaining *birth* weight by 10  days -- 
even if starting at day 4 they are gaining an ounce a  day...
 
At the last "Bridges" program we did in WI, we had a  nurse there from a 
Baby Friendly hospital that said they were using the  reference weight at 24 
hours rather than the birth weight to calculate  percentage of weight lost -- 
and that their supplementation of babies based on  "Oh My Gracious, the 
baby is down 8%!!!" has dropped to almost 0 -- because the  babies are NOT down 
8% any more.  
 
This, of course, would be an entirely different  scenario if we treated 
birth as normal....and we didn't treat women as  "patients" and we allowed them 
to eat and drink normally in labor and didn't  flood them with IV fluids 
(just in case, doncha know....).  Oh dear....stop  me!!!  I feel my favorite 
rant coming on.  But I'll spare y'all cuz  I'm preaching to the choir 
here.....
 
Jan Barger, RN, MA, IBCLC, FILCA
Lactation Education Consultants
Wheaton IL




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