Carl,

I remember many, many years ago, I inquired after a BLM job out west, I
believe it was Idaho. I was told that historical archaeologists need not
apply because there weren't any historical sites in Idaho.  So, hang in
there, you are a sure sign of progress!


Linda Derry
Site Director
Old Cahawba Archaeological Site
719 Tremont Street
Selma, AL 36701-5446
334/875-2529
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Carl Barna
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 5:23 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Question Archaeologist in the USDA Forest Service
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> Wow --
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> You'se guys are sure livin' in the tall cotton!
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> In BLM (260 million acres or so at last count) we have about
> 130 archs - most of whom are prehistorians ;o( -  and one CRM
> historian, yours truly. My position was set up as a pilot
> position to test the Regional Historian concept that we stole
> from the NPS - which has recently been abolishing most of
> their Regional Historian positions.  Optimistically, we
> plann/planned to have four such positions, but it hasn't happened yet.
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> I can't image the FS has having seven formally trained
> professional historians. ( A lot of agencies are sneaky and
> duplicitous, labeling anthropologists as historians, but
> that's another thread.) Such luxury. NPS was always fat in
> terms of CRM positions in comparison, yet it has the smallest
> land base compared to BLM and FS.  So it goes...
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> Cheers!
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> Carl Barna
> Regional Historian
> BLM Colorado State Office
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> Sounds like the Forest Service is overstaffed and needs a
> little thinning out like your trees, Smoke. Just kidding, of
> course, my fellow dedicated public servant.
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> Given the number of acres the Forest Service manages (200
> million or so), it's actually a paltry few. By comparison,
> the National Park Service has just about 200 permanent staff
> in the archeology job series nation-wide, as I recall, for
> oversight of some 380 park units spread over nine regions and
> about 80 million acres. Quite a few of those staffers are
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> assistance instead of cultural resource management and
> research within our own park boundaries.
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> Will Reed just did a query yesterday and the USDA Forest
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> 333 professional archeologists (193 series) and
> 47 archeological technicians (102 series).
> 7 Historians (170 series)
> 7 Social Science Student/Trainees (199 series) and
> 2 "general Anthropologists" (190 series)
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> This is only permanent and not seasonal employees.
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> Smoke.
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> Smoke (Michael A.) Pfeiffer, RPA
> Ozark-St. Francis National Forests
> 605 West Main Street
> Russellville, Arkansas 72801
> (479) 968-2354  Ext. 233
> e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
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> It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
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