While we're still on the subject, I have a Saturday Evening Post from 1949
that has the add "9 out of 10 doctors prefer Camels" which begs the old
joke --- the rest prefer women. It also has a full size yellow page reading
"fight for the right to yellow margarine." Actually, this subject begs a
reply from Allen Vegotsky, who as many may know, worked for the American
Cancer Society for many years.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vergil E. Noble" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Quality whiskey and cigars
> Although the connection between smoking and lung cancer was first
> recognized by the medical profession in the 1940s, the official US Surgeon
> General's Report on smoking and health did not appear until 1964. This was
> followed by the Federal Cigarette Labeling and Advertising Act of 1965,
> which required a mild warning on cigarettes ("may be hazardous"). It was
> later punched up in 1969, but the warning still only applied to
cigarettes.
> Only in the mid 1980s did the warnings become more specific about the
> effects, mentioning a host of diseases, and began to include smokeless
> tobaccos. Not until the year 2000 were cigar companies required to place
> warnings on their products and advertising in the US under terms of a
> settlement with the Federal Trade Commission.
>
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> Andrea Marroquin
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> It was actually $8 for a box of 100. Still sounds expensive to
me,
>
> but maybe less so than I led you to believe. My database was a little
> unclear on pricing because I was interested in sorting groups of
> merchandise according to price ranges. I had placed it in the $5-$10
> category. I went back and looked it up. I actually have a copy of
> this ad, which was printed in Collier's Weekly, on June 20, 1908, p.
> 25.
> The copy reads:
>
> SMOKE IT
> Don't judge a cigar until you have tried it. Every man likes a
> certain cigar because he has cultivated a taste for it, and smoking the
> same brand becomes a habit. Give the Ordero Cigar a trial. The
> chances are you will like it and will want to smoke a cigar that is
> always uniform.
> The "Ordero" is a Hand-Made Long Filler, made of the best quality
> of
> genuine imported Havana and Sumatra.
> The Ordero Cigars are made to your order only, with your name on
> the
> box, each layer being packed separately in a sealed package. Price
> $8.00 for 100 delivered. Or a trial box of 12 will be sent you for
> $1.00. Your money refunded if unsatisfactory. Order a box now.
> JOSEPH R. RUGG, Est. 1843. 740 Market St., Blairsville, Pa.
>
> Strange not to see a surgeon's general warning on tobacco
products.
>
> If I recall correctly the FDA was created in response to some patent
> medicine scandals around 1906 or so. I am not sure when surgeon's
> general warnings began to appear, or if they was related to this
> movement when they did appear.
>
> Andrea Marroquin
>
> On Aug 31, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Cathy Spude wrote:
>
> > Andrea:
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > The Odero cigar...was it $5 apiece or $5 a box (either way, expensive:
> > that's the equivalent of $100 today). Okay, I admit the novel is mine.
> > My
> > guy (not the main character) wants quality, but he also wants to
> > display
> > his wealth. Smoking a $100 equivalent cigar would do the trick.
> >
> > Do you know if it was a Cuban cigar?
> >
> > The other information is priceless, too. I'm finishing up a report on a
> > saloon, dating 1897 - 1916. I disagree with another writer that pipes
> > might
> > be as common as cigars. The photographs of tobacco stores and the
> > tobacco
> > cases in saloons were dominated by cigars. Pipes were a leisurely
> > smoke,
> > better suited to the clubhouse. The cigar was meant for the saloon.
> > Although I found pipes in my saloon, and very little evidence of
> > cigars,
> > you wouldn't due to differential preservation. I'll bet with your
> > research
> > on ads, you found the cigar ads outweighed those for pipe tobacco
> > during
> > the period.
> >
> > Thanks again. It was a real help.
> >
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> > Catherine Holder Spude ¨ Archeologist ¨ Cultural Resources Management ¨
> > National Park Service – Intermountain Region ¨ 505.988.6831Voice ¨
> > 505.988.6876 Fax
> > The National Park Service cares for special places saved by the
> > American
> > people so that all may experience our heritage.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded by Cathy Spude/SANTAFE/NPS on 08/31/2004 08:36 AM -----
> >
> > Andrea Marroquin
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> > Spude/SANTAFE/NPS)
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> > whiskey and cigars
> > HISTORICAL
> > ARCHAEOLOGY
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> > 08/24/2004 02:12
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> > I can't vouch for the quality, but I came across a number of
> > alcohol
> > and tobacco products when I was researching advertisements posted in
> > monthly magazines between 1890 and 1910 for my master's thesis. The
> > thesis is available under my maiden name:
> >
> > Clark, Andrea
> > 2001 From Ads to Artifacts: The Selling Power of Gender Ideology in
> > America, 1890-1910. An M.A. thesis submitted to the
> > Faculty of
> > the
> > Department of Anthropology at the The College of William
> > and
> > Mary.
> > Williamsburg, VA.
> >
> > All of the following ads are available on microfiche. I can provide
> > specific sources, dates, and page numbers for any of these ads if your
> > friend would like to look some of them up personally. I believe I may
> > also have jpg.s of a few of them.
> >
> > Products with Ads Targeting Men:
> >
> > - Enos Richardson and Co. advertised cigar cutters in 1893. This
> > product was called "the most useful present that could be given a
> > gentleman."
> > - "Hunter Baltimore Rye" was advertised by Wm. Lanahan & Son in 1898,
> > was considered "The American Gentleman's Whiskey" by the advertisers.
> > - "Gold Lack Champagne," by C.H. Arnold & Co., advertised in 1903.
> > Heralded as the beverage of "Your Grandfather's father, and other fine
> > gentlement of the old school" and was professed to be "now as then the
> > wine of connoisseurs and aristocrats the world over."
> > - "Dewar's Scotch Whisky" from Frederick Glassup and John Dewar & Sons
> > advertised in 1903. This ad proclaimed "FISHERMAN'S LUCK often
> > includes a combination of we feet, hunger, a light creel and a
> > plentiful supply of hard luck stories. The lucky fisherman is the one
> > who provides himself beforehand with the consoling companionship of
> > Dewar's Scotch WHISKY."
> > - "Hunter Whisky," by Wm. Lanahan & Son, was advertised in 1903.
> > - "Pommery Champagne" was available in 1903. Advertisers claimed it
> > was present at an affair hosted for King Edward VII by France's
> > Minister of Foreign Affairs.
> > - "Cook's Imperial Extra-Dry Champagne," also available in 1903, stated
> > "Let every good fellow now drink up his glass."
> > - "Hunter Rye," again by W,. Lanahan & Son, advertised in 1908.
> > - "Old English Curve Cut Tobacco" was offered by the American Tobacco
> > Co. in 1908.
> > - The "Freeman Pipe" was available from the Freeman Pipe Co. in 1908.
> > - Tobacco was offered from the French Tobacco Co. in 1908. This
> > product was called "The Aristocrat of Smoking Tobacco."
> > - Ordero Cigars were advertised by Joseph H. Rugg in 1908 (they were
> > over $5, and might therefore be considered expensive, whether this
> > reflects on quality, I cannot say).
> >
> > Alcohol and Tobacco Products Targeting Women:
> >
> > - One ad promoted "cigarettes and cigars" for women in 1893, noting the
> > Empress of Austria was rumored to smoke fifty cigarettes daily in
> > addition to smoking cigars. Interestingly, no specific manufacturer
> > attached their name to this notice.
> > - "Schlitz Beer" in 1903.
> >
> > Ads Targeting Both Men and Women:
> >
> > - "Hunter Baltimore Rye," by Wm. Lanahan & Son in 1903. Still noted as
> > "The American Gentleman's Whiskey," this product was "particularly
> > recommended to women because of its age and excellence."
> > - "Schlitz Beer" in 1903. "It is good for anybody."
> > - "Harper Rye," advertised by Bernheim Bros. in 1903.
> >
> > Gender-Neutral Ads:
> >
> > - "Compana Cigar," from the Compana Mfg. Co., available for 25 cents in
> > 1893.
> > - "Hayner's Rye" was available from the Hayner Distilling Co. in 1898.
> > - A "Turko Cigarette Roller" was available from Charles W. Oliver in
> > 1903.
> > - Gender-neutral ads for "Cook's Imperial Extra Dry Champagne" were
> > published in 1903.
> > - "Dr. Siegert's Angostura Bitters" were promoted by Dr. J.G.B.
> > Siegert & Sons in 1903.
> > - A "Chartreuse Cordial" and "Chartreuse Liqueur," was provided by
> > Batjer & Co. in 1903.
> > - "Bond & Lillard Whiskey" was available from Stoll & Co. in 1903.
> > - "Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer" was advertised by Pabst in 1903.
> > - A "Flaming Pocket Lighter," was advertised by Walton & Co. in 1908.
> > - A "Peach Pipe," was marketed by Leavitt & Peirce and the Peach Pipe
> > Co. in 1908.
> > - A "Hydro Electric Cigar Case Moistener" was available from Julius
> > Andrae & Son's Co. in 1908.
> > - An "Automatic Cigarette-Maker" was promoted by Esrich Mfg. Co. in
> > 1908.
> >
> > Hope this helps! Andrea Marroquin
> >
> >
> > On Aug 23, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Cathy Spude wrote:
> >
> >> HISTARCHers:
> >>
> >> I have a friend who is writing a novel. He'd like to know the brand
> >> name of
> >> a good quality whiskey and cigar from about 1905. Can anyone help?
> >>
> >>
> >> Cathy
> >>
> >>
> >> Catherine Holder Spude ¨ Archeologist ¨ Cultural Resources Management
> >> ¨
> >> National Park Service – Intermountain Region ¨ 505.988.6831Voice ¨
> >> 505.988.6876 Fax
> >> The National Park Service cares for special places saved by the
> >> American
> >> people so that all may experience our heritage.
> >>
>
>
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