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At 06:32 PM 1/14/2006, you wrote:
>Im asking for help to locate  dealers in AI equipment.Im really interested
>in the Compact Schley III Model.

Sue Cobey carries this and other models:
    http://www.honeybee.breeding.com/
    http://www174.pair.com/birdland/Breeding/II.html

The compact model III with microscope use to run around $2000.  The 
price may have changed because it is somewhat dependent on the 
exchange rate of the euro.  It is basically a complete setup with 
CO2, syringe, etc.  It uses the small co2 cartridges sold for use 
with air guns which are readily available in the us at least.   It's 
not a bad setup, but doesn't have quite the adjustments as the model 
II. (The posts are fixed) and the microscope is a fixed 20x.

I purchased the model II myself and purchased my own zoom microscope 
and co2 system.  The model II has adjustable posts that lets you 
adjust it with a larger working area.  The zoom microscope is a plus 
since you can adjust the magnification, though I would suggest 
getting the 0.5x objective/barlow lens because it increases the 
working distance.  (the model II runs around $1500).

I would recommend the harbo syringe (around $300).  While the syringe 
that comes with either Schley model works, it's harder to use because 
it's all one piece and doesn't have a detachable storage tube.  With 
two pieces you can move and eject/takup semen without bumping the 
tip.  Plus it allows you to store and ship semen which can be useful 
even with a small operation.  Due to my schedule I often collect 
semen one day and inseminate a day or even a week later.  In addition 
you can remove the tip without loosing semen to clean it if it gets 
clogged or breaks.  Of those who were using the normal syringe when I 
attended Sue's class last year all were purchasing the harbo by the 
end of class.

Both Schley models come with a forceps style sting hook.  Again it 
works, but is more difficult to use that the perforated sting 
hook.  (I got to try one in class).  The forceps style hook basically 
requires you use the valve probe to open the queen and manipulate the 
stinger because the forceps are so big they can't be used for the 
job.  Unfortunately last year the perforated sting hook was no longer 
available as Schley stopped making them.  Sue had a ruby tipped hook, 
but the jeweler that made them for her no longer had steady hands and 
couldn't make them.  It was great because the ruby (a watch jewel), 
is harder than the metal and doesn't wear or corrode out from the 
venom.  Plus also has a tapered hole that acts as a funnel making 
easier to thread the stinger.  Fortunately a member of my class is 
not making them and Sue now has them for sale  I will definitely be 
getting one this year.  I do not know the price.

Disclaimer:  All prices were from about a year ago and are subject to 
change in part due to the fluctuations of the dollars value against the euro.

Sue also offers a training video (Very good and give an overview of 
the various equipment available, but I must say she make the 
procedure look much to easy :) and she offers a 3 day training 
classes which is worth every penny.  I can't say enough good things 
about her class.  Plus it really is a bargain at $350  (and you get 
to take home your course work (queens) from the last day.

-Tim

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