>Same documentation you have when you say that an untreated hive can't live
for more than three years ... none.

This discussion is starting to veer into positions and argument, rather
than informed discussion.  There is ample documentation that untreated
colonies used to all die, and that in well-documented controlled trials
still tend to die, depending upon the stock of bees, and local mite
pressure.  The Coordinated Action Project has recently documented this
phenomenon thoroughly, incontrovertibly, and completely.

On the other hand, I know of plenty of colonies that have survived for
multiple years without treatment.  The List would benefit by informed
discussion as to what allows them to do so, rather than "taking sides" in a
fruitless argument.


-- 
Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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