Hello Brian & All,
I looked at many of the chemical paid for studies. imidacloprid is not found
in detectable amounts in pollen the early studies said.

Untrue but as you say an old study.

Bees fed syrup laced with imidacloprid thrived. Not so but again an old
study.

I listed in an earlier post all the different insects imidacloprid will
kill. Why would such a powerful insecticide not kill a honey bee or a
butterfly? As a orchard owner I can tell you there were some hard to kill 
insects on the list.

Also all chemical company research I have seen is based on LD 50 and avoids
PPM amounts (for good reason).

I wildest thing you posted was that if imidacloprid was the problem then
areas of corn would be the hardest hit areas for CCD and its not.

 O contraire! Those areas actually contain high numbers of claimed CCD dead 
outs.

In areas like California where little corn is grown they reported little
CCD.

 I have never said the so called CCD was caused by the neonicotinoids
alone but the Bayer research you posted is simply wrong about those areas
being CCD free. I really tire of the game the chemical companies play but
you are free to choose their side of the issue if you want.


All the private research is different than the Bayer research which is and 
is why
we need new research.

Imidacloprid was registered on the basis of the Bayer research *you posted* 
which
has largely been proven inaccurate now by the CCD team and a couple others
doing testing.

French beekeepers are fighting hard to protect their industry
and the U.S. beekeeping industry seems asleep at the wheel.

Instead of simply deciding to not sell neonicotinoids in France for use on 
certain plants the chemical company simply puts another brand name on an 
imidacloprid solution and tries to slip past French beekeepers.

I have spent weeks looking at the research and see a pattern with Bayer and 
all their products. If you keep looking I think you will see the same. They 
like wording things so the average person has trouble following their drift. 
They avoid common terminology like PPM and PPB.

bob


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