>> Is that so? As far as I know, she has never acknowledged that they
 >> are dealing with 99% pure African stock down there.

 > This is because I was blind test as told to me by Dr Loper and then
 > it was used against us, while all testing with better labs in Europe
 > never showed AHB, but european stock instead..............which
 > showed the USDA was testing wrong

How long ago was that?

What do recent tests say?

 >> Dee, totally open?  Well, yes, except on that matter and the
 >> politics around it

 > Well knowing confidential files is one thing and talking is another
 > So let those needing info get right to read it

Could you say that in plain English, please? As I recall, you
and several others managed to have Arizona bee inspection eliminated
because they realized that the area was being invaded by AHB and were
contemplating restrictions on beekeeping and movement of bees.

Yes or no?

 >> The first is, "what kind of yield does Dee achieve on average?"

 > Depends upon rains each year and flora.......but sustainable the old
 > agric way, and not today's way

I asked for numbers. Your fans need numbers to see what they are
getting into if they follow your example.

 >> The second is. "what has been her major source of funds to support
 >> the beekeeping operation -- beekeeping itself, or extraordinary
 >> income (capital gains) and outside money?"

 > Beekeeping itself...............and has been ..................for
 > the most part.

That is not what you told me. You may be covering day to day expenses
with your beekeeping, but I doubt you are making money.

 > So, I'll ask again: How about it Dee?  How about some numbers?

 > When all other commercial do that are big.....................

What does that mean?  Plain English, please.

If you are saying that you will give numbers when commercials do,
that is right now.  The data for the profitability of commercial
beekeepers using standard practices is tabulated and published
annually.

Moreover, I'll tell you my numbers right now.  The source
information is public at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/

I had to stop and look up the data since I had not calcualted yields
since honey production not my goal and honey is mostly a nuisance
byproduct to me and has to be removed periodically to get
empty comb.

This year, I extracted 1770 pounds of honey from 22 spring hives.
Those 22 hives were also split into 79 surviving hives, counted as
of late fall.

Other recent years, I have extracted nothing. In 2009, I extracted
about 1,000 pounds from 9 spring hives which were split to 34 going
into winter.

So, over 4 years, I have extracted 2,770 pounds from 9, 25,9 and 22
spring hives -- an average of 16.25 spring hives.

That is a 170 lb average, including a year when I lost all my hives
over winter and years when I split the hives as drastically as I
thought practical.

(Wow! I had no idea until I figured it out just now.  Honey production
was not my goal).

OK Dee, you're up.  I did what you asked.

Now it is your turn. Numbers please.

 > But would like to add, ........the promise I made to Udall and
Regan, Nixon is coming to close in couple years, and then the fun
starts.......

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Please explain.

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