> allen writes: "SO, what I want to know is not just that people are seeing 
> some reduction in susceptibility, but some good guesses as to where the 
> adaptive traits are coming from."

> How would anyone know?

I know that some do know.  There must be some reading the list who have a 
good idea.  Maybe they have bought stock or have neighbours who did.  Maybe 
they have looked in on other operations and seen some good luck.

I can't believe how much we hear about proprietary chemicals, generic 
chemicals, and manipulations when there are apparently genetic solutions out 
there.

We hear from some with survivor stock who do not place commercial usefulness 
high in their priorities or do not have third part testimonials, yet there 
are quite a few who are seeing varroa tolerance.

Maybe it too early to expect more than mere survival, but I have heard hints 
that there are 8commercial8 stocks out there that do stand up well.  It 
should be possible to order commercial queens and get bees that are unlikely 
to need much in the way of treatment, if any and yet show the 
characteristics that are required for profitable honey production and/or 
pollination.

Is everybody treating routinely and ignoring available, advertised genetic 
solutions for the problem?  Or have people tried resistant stock and not 
been pleased?

I know Bob has given us some reviews, or at least mentions in this regard, 
but there are many knowledgeable beekeepers on this list.  Over 700 as I 
recall are subscribed and many more read messages forwarded or via the web.

What I want to know is who is buying what stock and how has it worked out. 
The suppliers of good stock could use a boost, and beekeepers need to know 
where to get bees that are not chemical dependant.

Some people do know.  That is whom I am addressing in hopes they will speak 
up. 

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