Cross posted from the entomology list today:

Subject: Re: Researchers believe they have found culprit in CCD


  The problem Paul, isn't whether or not the Science Daily piece is absolutely accurate or not, it is that mainstream citizens have easy access to it. They don't read this discussion board and nobody will believe anything Bayer or Monsanto write, as we all know their information is in their self-interest (profit), not necessarily accuracy.  So the general public will believe the Science Daily report.  There is nothing in the mainstream media to contradict it.

  The only way this will change is if someone with a lot of credibility on this issue, bees and pesticides, like Doug, would publish his ideas in a mainstream media journal and not a scientific peer-reviewed publication that nobody will ever see.

  (New poster people for the neonics)
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  like California beekeeper Randy Oliver commented:
  http://tinyurl.com/cxoy64b

  "there are a great deal of factual misrepresentations and
  fuzzy thinking in the paper, which obviously was not peer
  reviewed by any bee biologist nor toxicologist."

  Like Alberta beekeeper Allen Dick:http://tinyurl.com/844uppq

  "it seems that all that was accomplished was to simulate
  some CCD symptoms by spiking HFCS with imidacloprid."
  Moreover, they never proved or even suggested there was
  any proof  that an commercial HFCS had EVER been shown
  to contain detectable imidacloprid."

  Like New York beekeeper Peter Borst:
  http://tinyurl.com/d2env34

  > did they kill colonies by force feeding an insecticide already
  > known to be toxic? "That is exactly what they did. Everyone
  knows insecticides kill insects! Big surprise! The question is
  whether this class of insecticides is directly responsible for
  mass bee die-offs, which has been shown to be not the case."

  Science Daily and others like it reminds me of some popular
  supermarket publications:
  http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/4ALC/sciencedaily.jpg

  Paul Cherubini



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