>> I am not bringing mammalian toxicity into this...you and then Randy did,
>> by claiming that there were "different responses" and I'm telling
>> you...that's not true!

>> The acute oral LD50 values (mg/kg) for rats range from 50–60 for nicotine
>> to > 5000 for clothianidin. (Tomizawa and Casida, 2005)"

> So it all depends on how "different response"  is interpreted. However, to
> say that the insect and mammalian response is equivalent misses the point
> that they actually are not by a factor of 100!

Seems to me that we are missing two very important pieces of data 
required to reach that conclusion.

We cannot compare them without.

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