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Dave Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 7 May 2007 20:33:18 -0400
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sore tummy rub -- STR 
Yes I know this is a ridiculous name, that's on purpose 
to be a pin in the ass of my fellow CCD suffers 
who are either sitting on thier hands or walking 
about with thier eyes closed 
Do you have no sick hives? 
Are they doing nothing unusual or odd? 
Too shy -- or busy? 
I'm a northern bk 
I should be seeing this <b> last</b> 
Come on people 
I know of <b>NO</b> disease that have only 1 symptom 
I'd much rather be a lurker thank you so much, but .... 
 
I'm making 2 assumptions 
 
CCD is caused by mystery organism X 
I have X in my beeyard 
 
If CCD is infective then it is clear 
that it is an organism, poison plays a minor or no role 
There is tacit acknolegment already 
(don't unite, don't reuse equipement yet) 
If the Florida experiment confirms then there 
will be little doubt 
 
Symptoms of STR 
First seen on hoppers 
A clumsy, uncorridinated attempt to groom abdomen, repeatedly 
The rear legs seem stiff and wooden 
More severe: rubbing lower inner surfaces of rear legs together, 
repeatedly 
The feet are put down too close together 
Most severe: the rear legs are dragged, dragging cannot be seen 
easily on comb, set them on a piece of paper or lid 
Many bees display this behavior 
 
More signifigantly newly emerged also show this 
Over 90%, its hard to say all 
 
If X causes STR symptoms then 
this throws out nosema (a or c) 
since newly emerged will not have nosema 
 
Formic helps slightly, an OD (accidental) helps more 
(probably by killing worst infected) 
 
If I was to bet: 
X is a virus 
X's vectors are 
Nurse to larvae 
TM adult to adult 
Control TM and it fades away in 2-4 wks, depending  
on other factors 
 
Since acetic is hard to find I wonder 
if SO2 would disenfect X? Would certainly be cheaper 
 
dave 

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