Ok, I've forwarded the Hanging Basket chatter - was in Maine, not NY, but  
could be same.
 
 
As Bob Harrison says, in Missoula, greenhouses make up own baskets, but  
sounds like urban areas get big shipments from overseas.  Who knows what  they 
may have.
 
As per number bees - I just summarized this a few weeks ago - the ref book  
is across town.  Bottom line, depending on age of bees, whether they were  
smoked, etc.  you will find btw 4500 and 5000 bees per pound (454  gms).  
I'll send you the numbers tomorrow when I get to my office.
 
Gastonia is working with fresh (wet) weight in their analysis.  Roger  
takes your sample, adds dry ice, and grinds up the sample as received.
 
Literature on residue levels in bees very bad - seldom says whether  
results  are based on wet weight, dry weight, or something in btw.  In  Europe, 
they even have an odd metric called mg %.
 
PSU too stupid to even know this is an issue OR to know that you   can't 
directly compare residue values with dose values.  You are correct,  dose 
trials express  results on a PER BEE basis, usually on amount of  chemical 
ingested or applied as a contact poison.  Residue values are  concentration per 
gm (wet or dry depending on the sample prep).
 
Roger's lab does market basket surveys of produce, etc. - so he's geared up 
 to do quick and dirty sample prep.  If its critical work, I have him COUNT 
 the bees in the amount ground up for analysis.
 
 
You  are correct in flagging this question.
 
Jerry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/15/2012 6:18:26 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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On Thu,  Jun 14, 2012 at 11:15 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is  there any data to show what was in/on the plants in those hanging
>  baskets?
>

Still waiting for that. There is a  candidate.

Bill Truesdell
Bath, Maine

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