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Bob Harrison <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:42:52 -0500
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Mike said:
 The next morning there were eggs on this frame...even though some of the
cells containing eggs were only partially drawn.

Interesting observation and the kind I had hoped for. Some queens will lay
eggs right on new foundation which must really build a fire under the
workers. I wonder  if the trait can be bred for and also if in areas of
constant weather change  (Missouri) a desirable trait?

Mike said:
         When I add a comb to my breeder colony...queen confined to 3 combs,
2 of which have no room for her to lay...she will not lay in the comb for
about 24 hours until it is warmed and polished.

I consider the warmed to be rare (from our experience) but not the polished.
We have had breeder queens which are picky picky picky. We have had to use
several Jenter systems (when using the Jenter system) to rotate cell cups to
strong colonies to polish or else the breeder queen confined for 24 hours
will ignore certain cell cups. The same breeder queen will fill every cup
when *new* cell cups are used.
I have also seen breeder queens begin to lay right away . I don't remember
ever caging a queen for 24 hours and not at least getting some eggs to graft
although we caged a II Russian queen & a II SMR queen awhile back and only
got around 20 eggs in 24 hours from both.

Mike said:
So, I can see what Sechrist is talking about...adding foundation to help
with swarming. I'm not saying one method is better than the other, but that
both work...depending on the circumstances.

I agree but in the book Sechrist never tells his placement position  in the
nest of the foundation which I believe is important and not warning  new
beekeepers about spliting the brood nest in two  early in spring which I
also see as important.

Maybe I am being like the above queens picky picky picky.

 G.H. Cale & E. Lloyd Sechrist were the go to people for tough beekeeping
questions when I started beekeeping.

G.H. Cale (former editor of the American Bee journal )said about Sechrist in
january of 1944:

Sechrist is no "catch-as-can-catch" rambler, but a commercial honey producer
who has kept bees for profit under the four sons, California, Ohio,
Maryland, Africa, Haiti, and tahiti in the south seas; long one of Uncle
Sams beekeeping aces in the office of Bee Culture, Bureau of Entomology,
United States Dept. of Agriculutre"

 Bob

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