>
> >In this case  I thought your advocating, and am quite sure Randy is,
> that  treating our bees is counterproductive


Charlie, you should be careful about guessing what I think : )

> In fact the storm in most places is getting worse as Varro is
> transmitting more and more viruses.


Evidence please!  Varroa has only been shown to transmit a few viruses.
However, some of those viruses are coevolving with the bees and the mite.


> >  Yes that may be because we treat,  but what I hear you saying is the
> bond method would solve the issue


My gosh Charlie--I've never promoted the Bond method, and in fact speak
against it regularly.

 That in no way is a genetic solution, its burying the problem.

Actually, it certainly can be a genetic solution.

 > All the research I have seen so far shows us the hygienic, is not the
answer,  and is recessive.

May I suggest that you've misunderstood the research of which you speak.

 >So as I view it, as of yet, a two pronged rebuttal to that hypothesis'.
Heck actually the best possible I have seen so far is the Purdue ankle
biters I hold out some hope that’s a more dominate trait.

I suggest that you search the definition of genetic dominance.
I'll be discussing the mathematical implications of increased grooming on
the mite's intrinsic rate of increase.

>
> >Jose is right,  it is complex and we are all coming from different angles


Actually, it is you who appears to be coming from a different angle : )


> >but one thing seems obvious is that the "restiance" genes  be they viral
> or otherwise, are defiantly recessive
>

Again, please check your biology prior to posting to an "informed"
discussion group.

>
> >Because not only is it unrealistic, evidence so far shows its not true.


Actually, all the evidence that I've seen indicates that it is true.


>   For me that’s the point I, and many others stop listening, good bad or
> indifferent  not my point.
>

Perhaps you should stop talking, and start listening : )

Seriously, Charlie, give me a bit of time to fully explain.  I'm not trying
to be coy, but I'll be publishing a lot of information that may change your
opinions.

-- 
Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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