>If you go way back in the archives, even at the height of real CCD, the
percent of colony deaths related to CCD against all other factors, was less
than 5% in the US.

I'm not sure where you are getting these numbers

From USDA winter mortality is ~32-33% as a mean for past 5 years
Before that (06), I do not think the number was as high, maybe 18-20%

So how much of that 12% is a result of ccd? (over a 2.5M+ hive population?)
and what about the rest of the world?  where are their statistics?

In all the years before 06 I never had a deserted hive.
Since, I have seen 24 ?

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This should be a seperate letter, but i'm lazy

What I found 2 weeks ago makes me very puzzled
The 2 deadouts in the S yard were full of wax moth
Not as severe as the worst I have seen, but nearly.
No live worms, most cocoons dead, no cloud of moths when lids lifted

But I thought those 2 were a ccd collapse, no bees, an unrobbed super.
I am sure I split the boxes to see that there were no bees.
Was it such a warm winter? Am I going senile?  Was it ccd?  Am I blind?
Certainly very puzzled

dave

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