> Like the climate issue, there's no debate about this either, at least among scientists.

Zero room for debate is a red flag. It inspired this exchange:

Greg Laden on June, 2015:

> there is absolutely zero room for considering the reality of climate change or its severity ... There is zero room for debate when an issue has been pretty much settled

Randy Olson's response:

> There’s your problem. In just two words you’ve captured much of the core of the failed climate movement of the past decade. And it is failed, given that there was once climate legislation in the works and bipartisan support for action, but today there’s nothing.

"Zero room" captures the self-defeating arrogance and tone deafness that has characterized the American environmental community for decades. Thank you, Greg, for distilling it down to just two words.

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2015/06/23/the-new-andrew-revkin-fan/

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