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Original POST from June 6 <[log in to unmask]>
Is here anyone who nows somthing abut "kashmir virus".We have heard here in
Denmark , that in Australia is wery manny
bees dead of virus, that is infektet whith the varroa mite.
 
Reagards F.Rasmussen.
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>Rob Bowman
>Apiary Inspector
>Bathurst
 
>Recent posts mention a supposed outbreak, occurrence, incidence to varying
>degrees of Kashmir virus in Australia.
 
Hi Mr. Apiary Inspector,
 
"POSTS", I guess I missed them?  I passed on "ONE" (1) post <see above>
from a beekeeper who asked in the Sci.Agric.Beekeeping News Group if anyone
had heard of a lot of bees beeing killed in Australia, as he had heard,
because or from Kashmir virus. A honest and as straight forward a question
as one could ask.
 
>I am unaware of any such reports eminating from within Australia.
 
I believe that was the answer to his question and you could have answered
it without all this other stuff and I would be the first to line up on your
side, but by adding all this "rumor" and national economic interest stuff
you are raising at least my own suspicions when I had none? And the fact
that I received a personal post on the subject from another person in
Australia the same day as finding your post here does make me wonder just a
little. All you guys down under been out to lunch at the same time?<G>
 
>The implication of such rumours are that they may affect Australia's export
>package and queen bee industry.
 
Golly gee maybe the original poster who is in Denmark, I believe, will be
able to make up the loss if things get real bad down under, or maybe
beekeepers in Denmark import bees from Australia, I don't know but did not
see any sinister motive in the original post.
 
>If anyone can inform me of a reliable source of information so that
>accurate details can be provided to BEE-L it would be most appreciated.
 
If you are not that "reliable source" then who is?
 
>I will endevour to speak with industry representatives to ascertain their
>knowledge.
 
That's fair, and also surprising as I would think that the industry would
be passing on this kind of information to you, such as a dramatic loss to
bees, unless they did not want it known about it?  Maybe you would also
want to at least find out a small fact that you may or may not be aware of
and that is do you have the Kashmir virus in your country?
 
I think I know the answer to that one but do not want to be accused of
starting a rumor so I would like to hear it from a reliable source.
 
Some equate the loss of bees from any virus, and we have most of them just
about every place they have been looked for in our honeybees, with bee
mites. I don't myself and believe that under the right environmental
conditions several if not all together the virus can do a job on wide areas
of beekeeping without any outside help from man or mites. I also believe I
have seen this many times in the past before mites became so popular in the
bees here in the US. Few others are believers, one reason being it is hard
to separate bee losses from pesticides, natural plant poisonings, and now
predators, plus in the US the cost of ID'ing a bee virus in bees is
outrageous and for many years NOT even done on this continent.  It really
matters little as with all bee virus there is no cure other then time in
good pasture to replace what is lost if anything remains alive and healthy.
And I am reasonably sure NO silver bullet is going to be announced this
century as the big interest and money is in killing the Vampire mites with
chemicals of one flavor or another even in the labs that could do more
research on bee virus. That's the area that has the big money involvement
and that is what drives our so called "public" bee research (BS) in the USA
and much of the world.
 
SPRAY don't Pray!, is the cry of the huckster hacking pesticides to the
farmer beekeeper outside the hall as inside the government man reports on
the problem of the day in beekeeping that is sure to end it all for all bee
keepers. The sky is falling, and its blue.....
 
Finding a silver bullet for what ails our bees pails in comparison to the
rewards from selling blue pills for old tired erectile love muscles.
Speaking of the old drones of the world who are going to have to cut back
on their activity to once a day from three to four times as ten bucks for
little blue pills is just too much to pay and more then most ever paid at
the best of blue light houses in the old days for an all nighter, so I have
been told.
 
ttul, the OLd Drone
 
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