Hello Peter & All,
I believe we have discussed this site at length on BEE=L before. I will add 
a few comments.


> Colony Collapse Disorder is a false name that serves to mislead the
> public into believing that there's a new, mystery disorder, probably
> something very complex, that needs tons of money to be thrown at it so
> that every possible angle can be studied.

Actually the above has happened. Which is not a bad thing as we need bee 
research. From the start researchers have always said the problem is not an 
old problem but something new and based their hypothesis mainly on the 
symptoms.

fact:
The hypothesis CCD is something new and not something old has been always 
put forth and was based mainly on symptoms.

The discover of nosema ceranae may have not happened even now had it not 
been for the bee die off.(CCD)
One has to wonder why it took years to discover nosema ceranae was here and 
common. After all Spain has been in the news for over six years in its 
battle with nosema ceranae.

 The reason is simple. By
> misdirecting the public, and apparently many professionals too, the
> real reason for bee die-offs is obscured.

The above is incorrect in my opinion for several reasons.
1. no one cause will be found for the die off
2. Nosema ceranae is higher up the list of die off suspects in my opinion 
than the neonicotinoids.

The Bayer protest group has an agenda. They see what they want to see.


 At first many of us bought into the idea CCD was some new plague.

Then when we started looking closely when no *new* problem was discovered. 
Will looking at a higher number of samples produce a new sinister problem 
which has been missed?

Sure I welcome bee research but in my opinion no new problem will be 
discovered. Research at a level a electron microscope will not see is hard 
to convert into the craft of beekeeping.

So we looked at what had been found. Nosema ceranae, high levels of approved 
mitacides in brood comb even in comb with approved legal application, Only 
soft varroa treatments working therefore dropping varroa control to levels 
at which virus issues always happen and commercial beeks reporting losses in 
areas of pesticides,

The main people having issues with the neonicotinoids are not the hobby 
beeks or those keeping bees in areas in which for now the neonicotinoids are 
not in heavy use. The beeks complaining are those which are doing 
pollination and moving into areas of heavy neonicotinoid use.

In New York they used to say:
"You will not get mugged if you don't go downtown"

Some blame the commercial migratory beeks for doing the nations pollination. 
Stay home until the CCD team solves the yet unknown new problem.

You are stressing the bees.

You are spreading the yet unfound CCD problem.

 However they do not complain when munching on an apple or enjoying 
blueberries with their cereal!

The Canada die off report for last year clearly sends a message to Canada 
beekeepers that the most losses occurred in areas of the highest use of the 
neonicotinoids. Their emails to me pointed out their hypothesis. In fact 
many are learning to keep bees around the neonicotinoids. Pull hives out at 
a certain stage , move away and provide good protein to build the immune 
system back up. What I have said comes from emails from those beeks. I have 
never kept bees in Canada. Please do not kill the messenger!
coincidence?

Large commercial beeks bringing bees out of heavy neonicotinod areas of 
pollination report hives in sad shape when placed on honey locations in the 
Dakotas. Unlike years gone past. Coincidence?

off to work bees.

bob 

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