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Aleksandar Mihajlovski <[log in to unmask]>
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James Fischer wrote:
> "It seems a defeatist outlook, since it assumes that
people will not act in their own best interest, and
cooperate when the advantages of cooperation are made
clear."<

I think that people can generally be defeatists and
act like defeatists by nature or previous history/
tradition, and also they will often act against their
own best interest - at least it is so in my country.
One person cannot go against tradition, habits - you
can just go alone with them, and only you can is to
try to gave slate different direction - if you care
for your own best interest.
The programs which are dealing with diseases are
always programs ABOUT coordination - but as we fill in
beekeeping - they are never good enough.
Or... What is success of a such program? I suppose
curing, eliminating the disease! What happens when you
cured it? Than there isn't any reasons any more to
REALLY keep up the program and spend money and to
straighten coordination efforts...
After that... Here is illustration:
One of my friends, with whom I doesn't meet very often
now, has sad to me last time when we met, that he has
discovered in his house top that his grandfather was
been beekeeper and he will gave that old equipment to
his relative because he had started last year with
beekeeping by caching one swarm... How many new
beehavers are come in beekeeping on this way every
year, or how many are not beekeepers any more every
year (not telling anyone), and also how many
experienced beekeepers forgot to gave instructions to
newcomers to disinfect the equipment at first - like I
forget to tell my friend?
About such programs, I wonder if there is anybody on
this List from Israel, because I have heard that they
had very consistent programs (at list for varroa
treatments) - did they had some programs for AFB and
what has happens in long therm? (Short therm success
is expected)
My conclusion (at present!) is that any program which
will include a lot of effort, lot of money and lot of
time, and also which will NOT have specially developed
approach (depending highly of tradition/habits) has no
chance to success longer time. Such a program must
have clear tactic for what to do AFTER eventual first
success.
...and seems that such programs always look different
(better) from outside than from inside.


 Clay, under: "AFB under control", wrote:
> Why not do colony shake downs into new equipment?
Infected frames (wood is destroyed)...<

I personally advocate this old method, but it is
suitable only for beekeepers with small number of
colonies. This can be (and nas been proved that this
is true) very safe and effective, especially if some
new knowledge can be included:
- establishing quarantine places/apiaries (if
beekeeping operation is bigger),
- establishing colonies-isolators for frames with
brood (if there is many infected colonies),
- disinfecting all equipment with hot 2 - 4% solution
of NaOH (word in English?) (no need to burn frames),
- replacing the queens and replacing the honey (you
shake bees on clean equipment and gave a sugar syrup
extensively (when you can administer antibiotic -
first and last time) until bees build up all frames
from foundation and made reserves od capped honey -
usually maximum 3 weeks)
- eventually reinforcing the colonies with bees from
colonies-isolators

It is also VERY important to do the same operation
completely to all beehives in apiary in which you find
hive with clinical AFB, because concentration of
spores in them can be in critical levels..., or you
can do the same if AFB was found at your neighbour -
as preventive measure.
This is also very stressful job and sometimes can be
done only just before evenings on limited numbers of
bee colonies for that day.


=====
Aleksandar Mihajlovski, editor of
Macedonian beekeeping journal: "Melitagora"
Ul. Helsinki 41 a, 1000 Skopje, Macedonia
Tel./Fax(modem): ++ 389 2 363-424
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Join "Apimak", Macedonian discussion group at:
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