Randy said:
> In answer to Bob about N ceranae, there more I track progress of the
> infection, compare infected colonies, and compare treatments, the less I
> suspect it as a serious killer of its own right.  This observation may 
> prove
> to be in error, but that's what it looks like right now-

First let me say Randy and I email back an forth off list on many subjects 
and compare notes. I have the greatest respect for his opinion and have 
sought his opinion many times on a variety of subjects. It is true we report 
seeing different things and suspect we both are observing what we say we are 
and instead of disagreeing we are both trying to figure out why nosema 
ceranae is a killer in my area and not so much in California. Randy lists 
some of the things he feels could be the difference.

I would add one other. It is possible that the beeks having the most 
troubles in my area have never fed fumidil and their hives are full of 
spores. Also possibly their original nosema ceranae issues date back many 
years as some of these beeks have been having dead out problems for around 
5-6 years. Don't know and may never know for sure.

Next I will say I have discussed off list nosema ceranae with Jerry. Jerry 
B. in my opinion has beliefs very similar to those randy posted.
To quote Jerry B. from earlier this week:
 He feels nosema ceranae by itself may not be the problem but when combined 
with a couple of viruses then becomes the killer"

CCD in my opinion is a big grey area and not a black & white area and both 
these guys have reasonable hypothesis which may well be correct concerning 
nosema ceranae and its relation to CCD.

bob 

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