> So when we use blanket statements like "we use too much pesticide" I think we do ourselves and huge intellectual dishonesty, and an even worse one to our listeners.
I don't think many informed people would agree with this. Ideally, one would prefer no pesticides and no pests. The idea with IPM is to use only as much as needed to control pests, not blanket the crops without even evaluating. I think growers would rather use less but more effective product
Pete, you miss the point entirely, so let me try again. It seems I suck at getting the point across. NO ONE, I repeat NO One is blanketing with pesticides without evaluating. Neonic are entirely about EXACTLY what you said, less but more effective.
Consumers in some markets show a preference for organic produce if they can get it. In the real world, pesticides are needed to protect crops, to protect investments, etc. But if less were needed, time and money would be saved.
Again, note that "produce" is a super tiny market (around 3%) and even if it all switched to organic, the usage numbers would not drop much. A key to remember when solving the problem.
What I object to is the whole thing has turned to a pitched battle between the various factions who cannot seem to look through the other's eyes. Even if you disagree with someone, you need to try to see from their viewpoint in order to know how to proceed.
That is one view, but its not the farm view. The simple farm view is the "spoiled brat perspective" those sitting at a fine restaurant eating the spoils, telling those who actually produced it how they should be doing it, without having any real knowledge.
This is simply verified by having a discussion with them about real farming and seeing that they are in fact clueless. Simple questions cannot even be answerd by most. Some have the fortituide to admit they don't know, and discuss, others just call names and walk off.
Charles
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