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Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:40:26 -0500
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?I doubt the bees moved the larva except for perhaps from the indentations 
between the cell plugs maybe 5 mm into a plug.

>  I have a jenter Q rearing kit.   I placed a Russian Q in it a week ago. 
> I
> released the Q. 12 hours later and she had in fact laid eggs in the jenter
> cage  which pleased me very much.

Did you check to see if eggs were laid in the indentations between the cell 
plugs? We always move those with a grafting tool. doubling our larva.

  I replaced the jenter cage back in her
> hive for 3 days and then went back to move the frame to the cell builder 
> nuc
> in which i had prepared with lots and lots of nurse bees.  Upon inspecting
> the cage for the eggs, i discovered that the eggs were not in the cells. 
> ?

but were a few in the indentations between the cells?


> ? ?  I figured that the bees had either moved or eaten the eggs, so i
> removed all the cell plugs and placed them in a plastic sandwich bag while 
> i
> mulled over why this had occurred.


Where was the frame with the jenter system. In a hive less plugs or a warm 
room?

 Now 5 days later, ( yesterday morning),
> I decided to try it again, so i put the cell cups back in the jenter cage,

The most likely explanation is you missed (and the bees also) removing the 
eggs between the plugs and the larva hatched .

> and around 10:30 am i caught the Q and placed her back in the jenter cage
> and placed her (in the jenter cage)back into her hive.   I went back 
> around
> 6pm the same day (about 8 hours later)  to check to see if she had laid 
> eggs
> again and to release her.   I could hardly believe it, but there were 
> larvae
> in many of the cell plugs and they were large larvae as if they were 
> several
> days old.

I suspect these larva came from the first eggs laid. Possibly moved a small 
distance into the plugs.

  I am at a total loss as to why and how this happened.  This is a
> new mystery for me.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation. I have never 
saw what you describe and have been involved with the jenter system since we 
received the first system with instructions in German. Involved with 
thousands of queens raised.

Queens do strange things at times.

Bees only eat eggs for a few reasons.

My guess is you missed a few eggs which hatched into larva. Not the bees 
moved larva into the plugs.



Think "Occam's  razor".

Bob H.

Not sure of your experience level with the Jester system . You are aware 
queens almost always lay eggs in the indentions between the plugs? 

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