BEE-L Archives

Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology

BEE-L@COMMUNITY.LSOFT.COM

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Jerry Bromenshenk <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:02:20 EDT
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (140 lines)
I haven't  been able to locate the study indicating that honey bees avoided 
cell phones,  but I did find this on-line publication by the same author and a  
colleague. 
 
 
_www.bienenarchiv.de/forschung/2004_lernprozesse/Electromagnetic%20Exposure_Le
arning%20Processes.doc.pdf_ 
(http://www.bienenarchiv.de/forschung/2004_lernprozesse/Electromagnetic%20Exposure_Learning%20Processes.doc.pdf) 
 
 
<NOBR>tion at the  bottom of a beehive, right under the honeycombs. So the 
station was placed  with



After a long  theoretical rationale for why one might expect electromagnetic 
effects in  insects,  they placed a cell phone base station inside a beehive, 
and  report:
 
"We have observed that the  honey bees have touched the sending aerial since 
the beginning, they did  not avoid it.  We haven't also been able to recognize 
a changing  behaviour of the bees."
 
They placed the cell phone base unit  on the bottom board under the combs.
 
________________________________________________________________
 
Like some others, I browsed the  professor's list of publicaitons 
_http://www.uni-landau.de/physik/pubkuhn.htm_ 
(http://www.uni-landau.de/physik/pubkuhn.htm) ,  don't see anything new.
 
Also, didn't find any news releases  by him or his university, so its a 
mystery, like CCD, as to where the  Independent got its alleged story.
 
_________________________________________________________________
 
We've seen long-term apiaries  sitting under cell phone towers with no 
apparent effect.  Many of the CCD  locations that I've visited didn't have any cell 
phone service, couldn't get a  signal if you tried.
 
__________________________________________________________________
 
When we were placing tracking chips  on the backs of bees a few years ago at 
Pacific NW Labs in Richland, WA - we  placed a signal generator near a hive 
equipped with a bi-directional bee  counter.  We scanned a wide range of 
frequencies up into the GHz range, saw  NO effect as indicated by flow of bees 
thought the counter.
 
__________________________________________________________________
 
I  don't know about other beekeepers, but I wear my cell phone on my belt  
while in bee yards, often park it on a lid, have yet to notice any chance  in 
behavior of the bees, except when it goes off in vibrate  mode.
 
__________________________________________________________________
 
This is an easy one to debunk,   anyone can do the supposed experiment of 
placing a cell phone near, in front of,  on top of, into, underneath a hive.  I'd 
even make some calls.  For a  control, take the battery out.
 
Do be sure to stand well away and to  the side of the colony.  If you place 
yourself in front of the hive  entrance, you will see an change in bee flight.  
And, if you smoke in the  beeyard, you will see an affect on the nearest 
hives -- we've documented this  with our bi-directional bee counters.
 
__________________________________________________________________
 
Since there's no other mention of  this study, I'm guessing that the 
professor didn't do it, that  someone googled  EM and bees, saw a ref to the on-line 
paper, and  never read it.  
 
The author is a physicist, so all  the theoretical computations in his paper 
make sense.  And I agree with  him, bees MIGHT be able to discern some of 
this, but if a phone base station in  the hive didn't invoke a response, I doubt 
that cell phone signals are causing  bees to get lost
 
 -- and how do you explain a  field with three stockpile yards of bees -- one 
 in good shape, one showing  signs of failing, and the other one almost 
totally lost -- which I saw in CA --  surely all the bees were exposed to the same 
EM fields in their foraging range  -- colonies were less than 400 yds apart.
 
I'd be careful about blaming the  professor, he may not have published 
anything new.  The press, on the other  hand, needs to cite its source.
 
Cheers
 
Jerry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
<N

 
<NOBR>Refe

 
<NOBR>[1] Faber,& Menzel, R. (2001); Visualizing mushroom body response to a 
conditioned  odor

 
<NOBR>in honeybees;  Naturwissenschaften, Vol. 88 (pp. 472

 
<NOBR>[2] Giurfa, M.  (2003); The amazing mini-brain: lessons from a honey 
bee; Bee World, Vol.

 
<NOBR>No. 1 (pp.  

 
<NOBKuhn, J. (2002);  Interdisziplinarität in Wissenschaft und Bildung; 
Tectum Verlag,  Marburg.

 
<NOBKuhn, J. (2003); An Advanced  Interdisciplinary Study in Theoretical 
Modelling of a Bio-

 
<NOBR>logical System  œ The Effect of High-Frequency Electromagnetic Fields 
on Honey 

 
<NOBR>ACTA Systemica  œ IIAS International Journal, Vol. III, No. 1 (pp.  3

 
 



************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

******************************************************
* Full guidelines for BEE-L posting are at:          *
* http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/guidelines.htm  *
******************************************************

ATOM RSS1 RSS2