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Andy Nachbaur <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:47:00 GMT
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PB>From: Peter Bray <[log in to unmask]>                                    
  >Date:         Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:21:05 +1300                                 
  >Subject:      Re: America's honeybees                                        
                                                                                
                                                                                
PB>At the point that the Canadian border closed, New Zealand queen and package  
  >exporters started to come under increasing scrutiny from some in the US      
  >beekeeping industry, particularly those that had a vested interest in        
  >getting the border open again.  The clear (but hidden) strategy of making it 
  >difficult or impossible to airfreight queens and packages from Australia and 
  >New Zealand to Canada, was to try and force the border open again.           
                                                                                
This is becoming joke able if it was not so serious to those directly           
involved in Hawaii and Canada and to a very few beekeepers in New               
Zealand mostly with government or political connections of one flavor           
or another who now enjoy landing rights for bees in shipment to Canada          
at Hawaii's international airports, a political decision that was made          
under strong protest from Hawaii's beekeepers and with some heavy               
lobbying by interests other then American or Hawaiian beekeepers.               
                                                                                
Nothing is being hidden or held back in the United States or Hawaii or          
is there any different strategy then what you yourself would expound.           
Beekeepers in Hawaii have every reason and "the right in America" to be         
concerned about protecting their own interests and the health of their          
bees as you have your own interests which you would have us believe is          
not one of someone who does not have a so called "hidden agenda" to take        
advantage of a closed Canadian market for bees. The Hawaiian beekeeper's        
agenda is that they do not want to risk what they have that "they"  feel        
is valuable to them. New Zealand's agenda is that they want to export           
what they have and there is "no risk", at least to their selves, but            
then they would not allow US queens or bee's into New Zealand with 50           
lbs of regulatory paper work as they know the real value of their own           
bees and our's and their regulatory systems.                                    
                                                                                
It is not if Hawaii could supply all the bees needed by Canadian                
beekeepers which they can not. But I am sure if the most experienced            
beekeepers, (beekeepers who have used both sources of stock),                   
American's or Canadian's had a real choice in the matter between New            
Zealand and Hawaiian bees they would buy all they could get from                
Hawaiian as the Hawaiian bees do have a, how to say it without hurting          
your feeling, "bees from Hawaii enjoy a better track record with                
beekeepers in this hemisphere, other then with some regulators, and             
foreign bee lobbyists, and in every other market Hawaiian bees are in".         
                                                                                
Sure American bee breeders and many Canadian honey producers would like         
to see the boarder to the north open again, but there is much doubt that        
the US could supply the demand for package bees as in the past or would         
they want to and for certain not at the low prices the Canadian's               
enjoyed since WW II.                                                            
                                                                                
It is NOT true that Hawaiian beekeepers are working with so called other        
dark interests to force open the Canadian boarder. To do so they would          
be cutting their own market if you believe that kind of tripe...at the          
same time we all should try to put ourselves in the Hawaiian beekeepers         
shoes, would you let bees from California use your landing areas in             
transit from one place to another? But then maybe you have not                  
experienced the unplanned off loading of bees in shipment, and the              
unexplained numbers of packages and queens lost in shipment. "If it has         
value it will experience unexplained loss" is the rule in the world of          
air transport and the reason we all spend so much for air freight               
insurance and it creates employment and jobs for our national security          
police, (the FBI), and many public and private security agencies.               
                                                                                
As far as Canadian beekeepers are concerned today, to open the boarder          
to all US bees could, because of NAFTA and other changing trade and             
travel agreements, risks opening the door to US bees and beekeepers in          
numbers that could make it impossible for Canadian's to compete and a           
darn good reason to keep it closed from the Canadian's beekeeper's point        
of view. With $$ honey that north country looks very green from the hot         
dry areas of the western US. I am sure California could supply 500 semi         
loads with a weeks notice any day of the year for shipment into some of         
the worlds best bee pastures in Canada that were originally mostly              
opened by US and Canadian beekeepers working together in days long past.        
                                                                                
BTW It does bother me that New Zealand's beekeepers or regulatory               
    people are such vocal experts on the regulatory politics and                
    interests of the American bee breeders and the Canadian bee                 
    buyers. I would think that it would be better for their own                 
    self interests in New Zealand to keep to the subject of New                 
    Zealand bees in transit having landing rights at international              
    airports in Hawaii, a real gift of the trade winds, that they now           
    enjoy under close Hawaiian Department of Agriculture regulation.            
    This right is in the end a fragile political decision based on              
    bee science, (BS), and could be changed at any time with the                
    proper regulatory challenge, politically, or through the US                 
    courts, as this is more then a economical issue between New                 
    Zealand and a small dollar market in Canada, but one that reeks of          
    environmental risks and dangers that should be of keen interest to          
    one or more groups not connected or even friendly with beekeepers           
    and with little concern with the economic benefits to anyone.               
                                                                                
                            ttul Andy-                                          
                            Los Banos, California                               
                                                                                
                                                                                
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