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Allen Dick <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:06:37 -0600
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> I overlooked the fact that freezing the honey will also kill the yeasts.
> As the honey, the subject of this thread, has been frozen, heating to 160
> degrees Fahrenheit should not be necessary and the honey could now be
> stored at room temperature.
 
Yeasts form spores which survive cold.  I know I put young mead in the
fridge to settle the yeast if I want to try it before it has naturally
settled.  This stops yeast activity in the short term, however, it will
not have the same long term effect as pasteurization.  Of course
pasteurization will not give long term protection from fermentation  if
the pasteurized honey is then put into unsterile containers.
 
Basic Queries:
 
I notice that we are going over the same very basic material again and
again.  These matters have been beaten to death repeatedly on BEE-L and
are well answered in the archives.
 
The result of these repeated basic questions from new list members is
that after a period of time most people move on and *leave* BEE-L because
they have seen it all and get tired of the same basic questions.  If they
do not leave, they don't bother arguing or correcting when incorrect,
partial answers are given.  Ususally the same old stock advise from the
books is posted in response.  Unfortunately a lot of the stuff in the
books is just plain wrong, since I think most of the authors just read
all the other books and repeat what they have read.  Serious beekeepers
seldom have the time or inclination to write books, and leave it to the
dilletantes.  (I sure want to read Andy's book if it is ever published
-- it'll be a good one).
 
I know people move on, since there are now 328 members on Best of Bee.
Some are there to avoid tomfoolery and unpleasantness, however many are
there just because they have grown weary of the same old beginner
questions. Best of Bee is a solution for those who want to be at least
partially insulated from the same old amateur Q & A, however the level of
discussion on BEE-L has now tended to decline to newbie level.
 
I guess we need a better way of querying the records and encourage
newbies to use the information before bringing up the same old question.
The body of previous posts is our FAQ.  Unfortunately it is not web
searchable as a whole, and since it has been changed to weekly segments,
it has become far too difficult to use.
 
I do have a web page that is supposed to provide an interface for querying
the LISTSERV, however I have never put it to enough use to find out how
well it works, and haven't gotten any feedback on it.
 
Joe posted instructions for making queries and apparently has made
successful queries of the LISTSERV.  I wonder who else has worked on this
and if we could incorporate such instructions into a periodic post or an
initial greeting message
 
Any ideas -- other than making the queries in the obscure and
non-intuitive language of the LISTSERV?  I think Aaron was saying that
there is a web interface available, but he hasn't had time to figure it
out.
 
Allen

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