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Here's my summary of the bee water discussion of Jan/Feb.  The goal is
to supply the bees with needed water, but in particular, to prevent
them from using "undesirable" water sources (such as the neighbour's
hot tub).  Thus, the chosen solution must be more attractive to
bees than competing water sources.  It must also be safe for other
wildlife, and must not turn into an uncontrolled mosquito breeding area.

I've tried to give credit where credit is due; if I've misattributed
someone's comments, or worse, misrepresented them somehow, please
correct me.  Other corrections are welcome too, of course.


EXECUTIVE SUMMARY:
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  - If possible, start supplying water as soon as possible in your
    season, before any competing water sources become available, as
    bees tend to remain loyal to a source once discovered.

  - Make sure that bees can land and walk safely to the water,
    preferably by supplying a gradual path from dry to wet conditions,
    such as crumpled newspaper, cardboard, sponge, moss, mud, wood,
    or another material that wicks water.

  - "Dirty" water is most attractive to bees (mud, manure, decaying
    organic matter); they also seem to like salt in their water, at
    concentrations around 0.5% NaCl (3.3 tsp/gal), though as little
    as 1 or 2 tsp/gal may be sufficient.

  - Bees can be "conditioned" to a new water source by offering
    slightly sugared water, and then gradually removing the sugar once
    they are using the source.  It can be helpful to add another scent
    to the water to help the bees continue to recognize that source;
    lemongrass oil or anise would be easy ones, though cheaper
    (bleach) and more expensive (synthetic Nasonov pheromone)
    scents have been used.

  - If, by using a porous/wicking substrate, you can avoid open water,
    you may be able to avoid breeding mosquitoes in your watering
    device.  If you can't avoid it, then consider using fish such
    as minnows or guppies to eat the mosquitoes.  (Or of course
    you could just change the water frequently.)


DETAILS:
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Timing:

  Bees tend to be loyal to sources chosen in early spring, so it's
  important to start water feeders as soon as the hive is hive
  unwrapped from winter (if applicable!), before the competing water
  sources become available (Janet L. Wilson, Przemek Skoskiewicz,
  Jerry Bromenshenk, Glenn Woemmel).


Watering container/props:

  Where natural ponds and puddles are not available (or their use by
  the bees is not desirable), a variety of water containers is used,
  including kiddie pools (Bill Greenrose), birdbaths (Anna Farneski,
  Bill Greenrose, Deb Corcoran), an oil-change pan (Glenn Woemmel),
  a half whiskey barrel (Ruth Askren), a small stock tank (Jerry
  Bromenshenk), a chicken waterer (Janet L. Wilson), a Boardman
  entrance feeder (Przemek Skoskiewicz), the Perky-Pet mason jar
  bird waterer (Gosia and David Liedlich), and large saucers (Anne
  Bennett, Jamie Beyer).

  Most important seems to be to have a place for bees to land
  and walk without drowning.  For this purpose, people have used
  floating objects of various sorts, mostly sticks or branches
  (Jerry Bromenshenk, Gosia and David Liedlich, Bill Greenrose),
  as well as "platforms", mostly rocks and stones (Anna Farneski,
  Bill Greenrose, Anne Bennett, Deb Corcoran, Glenn Woemmel).

  However, Jamie Beyer pointed out that bees like to land on something
  relatively dry and be able to walk to the right moisture level.
  "Aylett Apiaries" stated that bees prefer shallow water, or, per Janet
  L. Wilson, a surface coated in water; Randy Oliver mentions that a
  porous substrate seems to be preferred.  All this is corroborated
  by Bill Greenrose's observation that bees are often found drinking
  at the edges of ponds and puddles, and other observations that
  bees congregate around leaks, such as that from a rain barrel
  (Deb Corcoran) or from a garden hose sprayer (Aylett Apiaries).

  This may be why people report success with a board, sponge, wet
  rock, or some cardboard wicking water (Janet L. Wilson), pieces
  of soggy foam (Glenn Woemmel), the soil in potted plants (Anne
  Bennett, Aylett Apiaries), and crumpled up newspapers (Jamie
  Beyer, who explains that high points dry out whereas low points
  remain moist, providing that gradual path to wetter conditions
  which the bees seem to prefer).

  Two contributors mentioned success when providing a bit of
  movement to the water, for example with a little solar fountain
  (Randy Oliver) or a slow drip-line strategically placed to splash
  the water a bit (Ruth Askren).


Repellents:

  One can discouage bees from a particular water source using
  Fischer's Bee Quick (Jerry Bromenshenk).  Randy Oliver tried
  DEET for this purpose with no success.


Attractants:

  It was universally agreed that bees love dirty water: mud, manure,
  pond water containing decaying organic matter from aquatic plants...
  the stinkier the better! (Jamie Beyer, Bonoan et al quoted by
  John Chesnut, Richard Cryberg, Randy Oliver, Bill Greenrose,
  Aylett Apiaries, Anne Bennett, Janet L. Wilson's research).

  Several people observed that bees like salt: John Chesnut's
  bees love his neighbour's koi pond, which is salted to probably
  0.2%-0.4% (2 tsp/gal), Glenn Woemmel noticed bees getting water
  from puddles around a salt block, and Przemek Skoskiewicz uses
  water with slight salinity introduced by a water softener.
  David Baker had heard that bees like a salt concentration of 1
  tsp/gal; Randy Oliver's quick review of the literature suggested
  0.5% NaCl (3.3 tsp/gal). Janet L.  Wilson's work shows that in
  the absence of sugar, bees prefer a very weak salt water source;
  John Chesnut quoted Bonoan et al (2017) to the effect that honey
  bees like salt in their water at all times.  According to Peter
  Loring Borst, Butler (1940) reported a bee preference for salt
  in a study conducted in the spring.  All that being said, Randy
  Oliver reports no luck with salt.

  There seems to be some controversy around the effectiveness of
  other minerals.   While Przemek Skoskiewicz implies that the
  high mineral content of his well water may contribute to its
  attractiveness to bees, John Chesnut quoted Bonoan et al (2017)
  to the effect that bees like calcium, magnesium, and potassium
  in their water only in the fall, while Peter Loring Borst quoted
  Butler (1940) to the effect that no preference for minerals
  other than salt was found (in a study performed in the spring).
  Jim Jakim accidentally created some possibly-unhealthy "battery
  soup" (rainfall plus some D-cells and a lithium battery), which
  his bees seemed to love, while James Fischer's bees like the
  condenser drip pans of rooftop A/C units best of all.


  There was some interesting discussion around the idea that perhaps
  certain scents are attractive not in themselves, but as a way
  to easily locate a water source.  Butler (1940), quoted by Peter
  Loring Borst, had concluded that bees prefer dirty water because
  it has a distinct odour that makes it easy to remember, not for
  any reason connected to the nutritious value of it mineral contents.

  This raises the possibility of "spiking" bee water with various
  substances in order to condition them to a source.  Peter Loring
  Borst quoted Free et al (1983) to the effect that synthetic Nasonov
  pheromone could be used to condition bees to collect water from a
  particular source, and quoted "The Skep" (April 2016) regarding
  lemongrass oil used in the same way.  Randy Oliver reported no
  such success with Nasonov pheromone nor with lemongrass oil,
  but Jerry Bromenshenk reported on a DARPA semiochemical study
  that found Nasonov pheromone to be attractive to bees only after
  they were conditioned to the scent with a reward (sugar syrup).

  In that vein, Janet L. Wilson recommends attracting bees to a
  new source by offering slightly sugared water, and then gradually
  removing the sugar once they are using the source.

  Other scented substances that have been reported to attract bees
  to a water source include anise (Jerry Bromenshenk), bleach (Anna
  Farneski), and Ultra Bee (Deb Corcoran); Deb Corcoran locates her
  her watering device among bee attracting plants.


The mosquito issue:

  Several posters recommend using mosquito-eating fish such as minnows
  or guppies in ponds or large water containers (Randy Oliver, Mike S,
  Bill Greenrose, James Fischer), with an aerator pump if needed
  (James Fischer referring to the "urban mosquito-fish lily pond"
  pioneered by Mike Barrett).

  Jamie Beyer has no mosquito problem; he states that mosquito larvae
  require some open water so they can attach to the surface tension,
  so his crumpled newspaper technique, which contains no open water,
  doesn't allow this.

  One poster (John Chesnut) uses "mosquito dunkers" (containing Bacillus
  thuringiensis subspecies israelensis (Bti)) because fish would
  also eat frog eggs.


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Well, that was interesting.  Too bad I don't have room for a pond.

I've already bought a Perky Pet waterer, so I'll probably give it
a try with a bit of sugar and salt, and a drop or two of lemongrass
oil and/or anise oil.  I'll stop the sugar once the bees are using
that source (if this works!).  With any luck I won't get wasps too.  :-/

While letting my tiny fountain get more "dirty" than it already gets
(i.e., not cleaning it regularly) is an option, that tends to plug
up the tiny pump.  Options, options...

But my observation that wet plant pot soil is a favourite has
been reinforced, so perhaps I'll set up a plant pot in a strategic
location, let the various water sources duke it out for bee preference,
and report back in a few months!



Anne, backyard beekeeper, Montreal.

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