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James Fischer <[log in to unmask]>
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>> I have been noticing several DWV affected bees outside of my garden
>> hives. Definitely HIGH mite levels.  I cannot use Apistan, much less
>> check-mite due to organic restrictions on the farm.  (I would not anyway).


> Use Sucrocide Jonathan if your organic status needs to be maintained.


I'm not sure that the suggestion is based upon accurate information.

I don't want to be so pedantic, I get listed in "Who's Whom",
but I think that he should check with his certifying agent
before he buys any "Sucrocide", lest he commit "organic suicide".  :)

If he were to use SOE today, he might be putting his farm's organic
status at risk.  SOE does not appear in the "National List" of
substances approved for any organic use, or the "Final Amendments".
http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NationalList/ListHome.html

Not yet, anyway.

While there is a petition pending for SOE as a "synthetic organic
insecticide" for "livestock" applications, it is merely a petition.
http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NationalList/PetitionedSubstancesDatabase.htm

The document above is very clear about one point:

   "Substances On This Site May Not Be Used In
   Organic Production Or Handling Before The
   Effective Date Of Any Final Rule Adding
   The Substance To The National List."

So, the fat lady isn't even humming yet.
There is no telling if or when she might sing.

And is it just me, or does the phrase "synthetic organic" strike
anyone else as a classic knee-slapper?

Regardless, I'm pretty sure that spraying SOE on a bee colony is going
to result in some serious overspray, and some of the chemical will get
on the ground.  As it appears that SOE is not (yet) approved as an
organic pesticide for any application, I'd conclude that he would not
be able to use it in good conscience on an organic farm, even if "only
on the beehive".

     jim (Only bloggers confuse the internet with reality)

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