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Kevin & Ann Christensen <[log in to unmask]>
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Discussion of Bee Biology <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 21 Apr 1996 20:56:53 -0600
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From:   (Kevin & Shawna Roberts)[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Saturday, April 20, 1996 11:51 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list BEE-L
Subject:        Queenless cell builders
 
Hi Folks-
 
I'm having some trouble with laying workers in a queen rearing setup, =
and I'm
hoping to get some advice from some of you who may have already solved =
this
problem.
 
I'm trying to raise queen cells in a two-and-one-half deep, queenless,
starter-finisher hive.  After a few weeks, I find that laying workers =
are
developing and messing things up.  I start with pollen combs in the =
bottom,
emerging brood and pollen combs in the middle, and bees and honey in the =
top
super.  I add a frame of seven-day-old sealed brood (no open brood) to =
the
middle body every second or third day, taking out an empty comb, and =
change
out the pollen combs as they get eaten up.  Every third or fourth day I =
add a
frame with 51 grafts to the middle body, and take one with sealed cells =
out.
 I have three frames of cells in the middle body at one time.
 
This setup worked great for a while, producing nice, fat queen cells I =
can be
proud of.  Today, however, I opened up one of the builders I'm running =
this
way, and I found that the most recent graft of 51 cells had been =
completely
ignored, and the previous graft had been chewed away, except for two =
cells.
 When I went in to look for the problem (I thought I had a loose =
virgin), I
found laying workers in the bottom box.  I suspect I will see this =
problem
again, soon.
 
How can I keep a queenless starter-finisher from developing laying =
workers?
 I've been using swarm boxes and queenright finishers up to now, and I =
was
hoping to simplify things by just putting grafts into a queenless unit.  =
I
suppose I could add open brood to the builder to inhibit the laying =
workers,
but then I'd be back to searching to for swarm cells once more.
 
Any ideas?
 
Kevin
Hollister, California
 
Hi Kevin,
 
I personally think that using a 2 1/2 story queenless unit for queen =
cells is too complicated.
 
We use a single story standard queenless unit and have very little =
problems raising beautiful queen cells at 90-95% good cells per graft.  =
We run 24 such units and run a cycle every week.  Each unit contains 3 =
removable cell bars of 16 cells each (48 in total) which usually gives =
us over 1000 good cells per week.
 
First of all we select 24 exceptionally strong hives and bring them home =
to the back yard.  We remove most of the OPEN BROOD with some adhering =
bees and the queen.  We set them up elsewhere.  We set the cell builder =
unit up as follows:  frame 1.  Inside feeder for syrup
                      2. Frame of SEALED hatching brood
                      3. Frame Graft (48 cells)
                      4. Good pollen comb
                      5. Mixture of pollen & honey
                      6. Mixture of pollen & honey
                      7. Mixture of pollen & honey
                      8. Empty comb
 
If the unit is not boiling with bees, shake a lb or 2 into them and fill =
the feeder several hrs before grafting.
 
We also have 8 strong 2 story queen-right Incubatuion Hives to store the =
cells until the installation date which is the 10th day after grafting =
(some people install their cells on the 9th day to avoid the danger of =
emerging virgins).
 
An incubation hive is simply a strong hive with the queen in the bottom =
unit under an excluder.  The top unit contains sealed brood mostly (some =
open brood is ok).  We store 3 or 4 grafts (144- 192 cells) in each, =
with each graft between 2 brood frames for warmth.  If the weather =
happens to be cool, we often insulate the cell builders and incubation =
hives.  Sometimes here in Alberta we are forced to graft in the snow.
 
Notes: a) we usually fill the feeder a 2nd time, a day or 2 after =
grafting unless there is a heavy flow on willow or dandelion.
           b) we have a schedule of grafting every tues. morning. This =
frees up Monday morning to move the completed cells to the incubation =
hives and also to rework the cell builders.
           c) As we work the cell builders we move the original brood =
frame all the way over to the opposite side and place another brood comb =
(from the field) next the the feeder.  Also make sure each previous =
brood frame is checked for possible cells to avoid an emerging virgin =
and disaster.
          d) Each week, on an evening, we shake 1-1 1/2 lbs of bees in =
front of the cell builders and let them march in the entrance.  Just =
remember, the stronger the units (more bees) the better your success =
will be.
 
Hope this helps,
 
Kevin Christensen
 
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