> Don't avoid his work. Its a must read.

Well said, Scot.

Frankly, I haven't read Adrian's book for a few decades, and have not read
all of Von Frisch, but I gather Adrian doesn't have problems with Von Frisch
and his work ...up to a point.

If I understand Adrian, Von Frisch had it right until he decided to describe
the motions of the bees as a language and ascribed causal relationships.  At
that point he upped the ante , for proof, and -- in the view of some --
failed to prove his thesis.

I admire Adrian for his observations and criticisms.  This is how science is
supposed to work, but ask Galileo: the price of questioning dogma is
sometimes high.

Was Von Frisch right?  Is Adrian right?  No matter, IMO.  There is a good
chance neither has the key.  The world of insects is very different from the
world of man.

allen

Now, I'm sure we'll hear from Adrian... or Ruth -- or both.

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