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"Andy Nachbaur (by way of Andy Nachbaur <[log in to unmask]>)" <[log in to unmask]>
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At 01:34 AM 2/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
 
>"Hard Smoke' is what beekeepers do when their bees get out of control.
 
More Hard Smoke, in no way was I suggesting the bee industry needs more
government regulation from any perspective as it is my point of view that
is that what we have now as poor as the government program is has
demonstrated the ability to detect problems and is working only because the
market place (honey packers) are doing their own inspections and this
includes the major packers in the US, all two of them and many who are not
major including even a few producers.  It is true that sometimes someone
has to drop a dime on the government inspectors to get any action on
imported honey but when they do if a problem is found it is dealt with in
the same way as when a problem is found in domestic honey. That is the way
it is and should be. To increase government inspection on honey will or
could point the evil eye on the natural contamination the has existed in
honey since the year one including the honey from the highest mountains in
Hawaii that is no cleaner then the honey from the cotton fields of Texas,
California, or Arizona when you look a ppb (parts per billion). At these
levels of detection or even at higher levels honey like most all things we
eat may have as many undesirables as the good magical things we all like to
trade on.
 
More on Varroa and a side of the so called resistance story that may never
be affirmed by those who know the truth and have the bucks ($$$$$$$$$), our
bucks. I have added a few **** to draw your attention to what is going on
or to my added comments.
 
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>From [log in to unmask] Tue Feb 10 04:54:29 1998
Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping
Subject: Re: Varroa Mite Resistance
 
>Fluvalinate strips are available in the US  -- it's called Apistan
 
>If your section 18 reference  is refering to Miticur, it was removed from
>the market after a 'bad' batch caused a bee kill - the mfg. who bought ( but
>did not develop) the manufacturing rights, did not want the liability and
>withdrew the product.
 
****  >Current work is with a Formic Acid delivery system. ****
(***remember this)
 
>GBee
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Apistan Section 18 strips were on the market in 1989, they had the registered
EPA code 109302 "fluvalinate" as  in 1983.  Since 1989 the formula for
fluvalinate has been changed.  Also the plastic delivery system was also
changed.   The current Apistan strips now have a different formulation and
different plastic.     The 1989 Apistan strips were tested here in Florida by
the ARS USDA research team in 10/1997, * those strips killed the so-called
fluvalinate resistant varroa mites very well!!!! **** (think about this)
 
The miticur strips have and/or had problems,,   right after manufacturing
the amitraz break down into three compounds,  one is toxic to bees ,,one is
carcinogenic,,one is not now know to cause problems. The miticur or apivar
(amitraz) strips would have to have an expiration date for usage.   Placed
into
 
colonies before they become to toxic to the bees.
 
More news to come,,
Sincerely,,,, David A Miksa
 
***( Editors note: David's beautiful sister in law is married to my x
wife's son and they are beekeepers in Arizona. They just had a new addition
to their work force she is named Andi, and all is well. )
ttul, the Old Drone
 
 
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