William Strother ([log in to unmask]) wrote of Beethoven:

>Kevin Sutton wrote:
>
>>... and how many times does he use the Da da da dummmm gesture in his
>>works. In many more than just the fifth symphony.!
>
>But with that and the Op 57 he pretty much got that pattern out of his
>system.  He used it a lot until then, but not later.

Off the top of my head I'd say Charles Ives had referred to it more
often that Ludwig did.

Deryk Barker
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