At 10:34 AM 5/18/98 +0000, you wrote:
 
>that thread.  My question is, if a hive does have foulbrood and is full
>of bees, can the bees be saved?  If you transfer the bees to new
>equipment, will they re-infect the new frames and boxes??  I seems
>lilkey that they will as the living bees must have the spores on them
 
Hi Mason,
 
Yes there will be spores in the bees guts, and yes the bees could be saved
in localities that allow it. Here in California it would be a violation of
the Law to do so. But no one is watching the store and I am sure many do
try to save their AFB hives via modern applied chemistry.
 
In the old days bees from AFB hives were saved by the "shaking" method
which was simply shaking the bees and queen into a new hive with all
foundation. It mostly worked good, the idea was that any contaminated honey
was used to draw the foundation. Now that TM can be used as a prophylactic
the old system looks better then it ever did and I would suspect that a
100% success rate is possible by feeding the bees TM in syrup for the first
cycle of brood.
 
ttul, the OLd Drone
 
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