>Hi Bee-L folks:
>
>From the last 'friendly discussion' between David, Pure Jane, and some other
>concerned beekepers. I would like to see the calories in the donut,
>therefore I will explain myself a bit:
>
>>Pure Jane wrote:
>>...all the dirty were from poorer
>>countries and ignore the facts the health conditions are being stressed
>>in our countries and all the living things that imported and exported
>>should pass a strict examination...
>
>1) Born and bred in Mexico, I know first had that sometimes (if not always)
>the regulations (if any) are just pure ink on a sheet of paper. In Mexico,
>if you know how to pull the right strings, you can even get yourself an
>authentic Death Certificate from a Qualified Practitioner.
>
>>Mauricio Montes-Castillo wrote>
>>Ohh No!!!! I can foresee some Tropilaelaps on the way.....
>
>In a very interesting article that Andy-OLd Drone was kind to post for us
>about Tropilaelaps clareae survivability, writen by  J. Woyke and S. Chen,
>the introduction reads...
>
>"Tropilaelaps clareae is more dangerous parasitic mite of Apis mellifera,
>than Varroa jacobsonii is (Woyke 1984). Therefore it is important to know
>its biology...."
>
>Having suffered on my own bees (Mexico 1982-1988) the damage caused by the
>nasty vampire mites, I perfectly understand the concern and anger of some
>beekeepers when we contemplate the irresponsible movement of live animals
>between countries and even worse, between continents.
>It looks to me that the same story is about to be repeated, that is how the
>AHB, Acarapis, Varroa and the like got to the American Continent.
>I dont want to be pesimistic but I realy wish that with one apology I could
>solve all the problems the North-South American beekeeping industry is
>facing now.
>Yours
>
>Mauricio
>We keep missing a few points. Bees are not native to this continant to
>begin with, they came from europe. Bee breeders from America have
>relocated to europe in order to import resistant bees which h ave survived
>desease over there. This stregthens our gene pool. New information shows
>bee virus to be the possible main problem more than mites. It is our lack
>of information which scares us.( ignorance ) People from other countrys do
>not have intimate knowlege of U.S. law. Brother Adam was not an American
>bee keeper but we have his bees inour country. If we isolate our selves we
>will get the same unhealthy in breeding which has distroyed so muc in the
>past. Most of the fruit trees that we pollinate come from china
>originally. Not all people who speak english is articulate enough to
>completely comunicate. We are ambassadors in the international
>comunity,diplomacy helps. We all read this board to hear about ideas other
>than our own. There must be a way  to import the genes safeley and legaly,
>we could certanly benifit from a more diverse gene pool. If we want
>International in put on this list,it may behoove us to keep a calmer head
>before we answer.
 
Jerry Fries
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>David Erie wrote
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>2)
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>"The optimist sees the donut...the pessimist sees the hole...
>   but the realist sees the calories." -Anonimous-
>
>Mauricio Montes Castillo (DVM, M.Ag.)                   Ph:  (617) 3365-2580
>Dept. of Farm Animal Medicine & Production              FAX: (617) 3365-1288
>The University of Queensland
>Brisbane, QLD 4072
>Australia.