At 10:35 PM 9/7/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Bee-listers,
>
>I posted a message recently about finding a bee vacuum that would remove
>bees from difficult places and not pulverize the bees.
>
>Mike Griggs was kind enough to enlighten me on a system that he uses and
>some resources. I have posted his messages to the list with his
>permission.
>
>If anyone has any more leads on a bee vacuum system, please post to the list.
>
>Paul Cronshaw DC
>Cyberchiro and Hobby Beekeeper
>Santa Barbara, CA
>
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>Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:59:48 -0400
>To: [log in to unmask] (Paul Cronshaw, D.C.)
>From: Mike Griggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Bee removal
>
>Paul,
>
>You are right that this is a bit hard on the bees. soft nurse bees are
>often hurt. The trade off is that this method does allow for a qick cvlean
>up of bees in areas that are hard to get to or to clean up the confusion in
>an otherwise difficult situation. I try to use less intrusive methods when
>possile. But here are a few tips to reduce insect deaths going into the
>vacuum capture box.
>
>I had to play around with strenghts of the vacuum so I could suck up bees
>without accelerating to the point that they slam into the walls and get
>hurt.
>
>I also use a smooth hose to suck up the bees. The corregated hose of the
>vacuum is to slow down particle impaction. This causes the bees to bump
>and bang all the way to the trap.
>
>Finally I constructed a cloth trampoline for the bees to bouce onto rather
>than a wooden wall. This is just a piece of thin streachy cloth that sill
>allows air through and provides a soft landing.
>
>Hope this helps Mike
>
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>Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:37:20 -0400
>To: [log in to unmask] (Paul Cronshaw, D.C.)
>From: Mike Griggs <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Bee removal
>
>Paul,
>
>Didn't get back to you sooner as I was preparing my truck for annual
>inspection. After thirty years, the last eight with extreme salt, it took
>longer than expected.
>
>I have seen vacuum collection devise designs for many insects. Some are
>powered by gas enjine,electric motor, or aspiration. The emergence of the
>rechargable battery industry offers hope that a truly portable and
>efficient method will someday arrise. Imagine a battery operated turbine
>that would provide enough power for say a leaf blower, reverse the air
>flow to provide enough suction to collect bees in a collection container.
>Mobile, quiet, effficient and reusable.
>
>I currently use an old GE vacuum I pulled from the trash. I was using an
>electrolux but my wife lectured me on the use of household utilities in
>barns. It really doesn't take to much suction to collect bees. One could
>regulate flow by providing a seondary intake orifice with adjustible size.
>by increasing the secondary hole the strength of thesuction at the
>collection port would be reduced.
>
>I have seen collector devises in either or both ABJ and Bee Culture. The
>idea is not new, it is quite easy and effective one need only to devise a
>working soln from available sources. With any operation the quicker the
>machinery the higher the chance to cause damage. I often trade the
>increase in speed for slightly increase in loss. I expect to loose some
>bees especially during a house removal. I loose significantly fewer during
>a swarm capture. The trampoline just decreases
>my losses.
>
>Post whatever you would like. Perhaps you would have the time and
>initative to come up with a workable plan and post them up for all to see.
>Cheers
>
>Mike
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>Call Brushy MT Bee Farm 1-800-beeswax, they had one in their 1992 catalog,
I'm sur Steve cal tell where to get on e, If not I have one , Send me your
fax and I'll return diagram JRT
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