hi y'all,
 
what's so non-organic about grease patties without TM?
 
What's so non-organic about essential oils?
 
Anything that is organically derived and breaks down (rots to you
laymen out there) is organic.  however, due to pesticides, and all the
other nasties out there, it may not be pure.
 
i live in an eucalyptus forest, and am hoping my ever-present and overly
abundant supply of eucalyptus oil will do the job for me.  so, if it falls
out of a tree, isn't that organic?
 
now, for a bit of info i got from bee culture about a year ago, there is
only one place so far certified to be organic for honey, in mexico, in a
very remote region.  all of us are so close to cars, homes, roads, stuff,
that we don't qualify as "organic" due to the residues from all of these.
so forget about organic certification, you won't get it.
 
while this is an interesting thread to read, there's a lot of mis-information
and supposition.  i'm glad for what i get from my hives, and as long as i
don't back the car over it, i'll consider it pure and natural.
 
bye!
         (\     John     /)
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         (/  Santa Cruz  \)
             California