I haven't followed this discussion very closely, but what is the problem
with frame grips.  I use the grips purchased from Walter Kelly Co. and they
are the greatest thing since sliced cheese.  I have fat fingers and don't
exercise much any more.  Therefore my fat fingers are not as strong as they
once were.  I take my hive tool and cut out he glue, ease the grip down the
side, and apply a slow even pull.  The frame slides out with no massed bees
and I don't get stung.  Works great every time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
At 09:24 PM 10/4/96 -0700, you wrote:
>    To be successful with frame grips you need a very strong
>    co-ordinated wrist.
>     caroline
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