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All, 

So, I heard back from Dana about the question of arsenic forming blue-green crystals. She said that she was always trained that arsenic forms blue crystalline material in burials. Apparently, this was also by word of mouth and there was no study of the phenomenon. She now believes that the blue crystals in burials is likely vivianite as has been suggested earlier in this thread. 

Best,
Jeremy

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On Thu, 4/25/19, Richard Wright <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Health and safety considerations for exhumations
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Thursday, April 25, 2019, 5:40 PM
 
  
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Jeremy Pye" 
 To:, "Richard Wright" 
 Cc:
 Sent:Thu, 18 Apr 2019
 22:04:55 +0000 (UTC)
 Subject:Re: Health and
 safety considerations for exhumations
 
  All,
 
  I have
 attached a copy of the Borstel and Niquette paper, which
 was
 cited in a previous email. The
 blue-green crystals are mentioned in
 this
 paper, but the only source provided is personal
 communication
 attributed to Dana Kollman, a
 forensic anthropologist currently at
 Towson
 University. I have sent an email to Dana to ask if she
 has
 specific sources that discuss this
 phenomenon. I will report back if I
 hear
 anything. 
 
  Other than the
 Meyers et al. 1998 paper, for which a link was given
 previously, I do know of two other publications
 that discuss health
 concerns in historic
 cemeteries, including arsenic. These include
 Konefes and McGee (2001) and Bybee (2004), both
 of which are attached.
 Bybee does show a
 picture of the blue-green crystals in a grave in
 Kentucky, but the reference given for the
 blue-green crystals is
 Borstel and Niquette.
 
 
  Best,
 
 Jeremy 
 
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  On Tue, 4/16/19, Richard Wright  wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: Health and
 safety considerations for exhumations
  To:
 [log in to unmask]
  Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 5:30 PM
 
  Daniel
  I
 agree
  absolutely that prior tests for
 arsenic should be carried
  out
  on cemetery soils. No question about
  that.
  What I was worried
 about was that
  excavators might get the
 jitters if
  what
  they were
 observing were merely bluish crystals of
 
 vivianite,
  which are commonly found
 around
  bodies in soils that contains
 iron. 
  An
  anecdote,
 unrelated to health and safety. In one forensic
  site,
  containing an
 unidentified murdered
  body, an excavator
 thought that
  the blue on
  a
 persons clothing showed that the person must have
  brushed up against crumbling, blue coloured
  distemper on a painted
  wall.
 Alas there was
  no such forensic clue. The
 blue was made up of a
  dusting of tiny
 crystals of vivianite.
  Richard
 
  -----
 
 Original Message -----
  From:
  "HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY" 
  To:
  Cc:
 
 Sent:Tue, 16 Apr 2019
  14:02:32 +0000
  Subject:Re: Health and safety
 
 considerations for exhumations
 
  Richard, 
  Well, the
 original
  citation was Borstel C.L. and
 Niquette C. Testing
  Procedure for Historic
 Cemeteries. Cultural
  Resource Analysts,
 inc.;
  Lexington, KY, USA:
 
 2000 - which used to be relatively easy to find
  online, but now all I can seem to locate
 are
  articles that use it as a
  reference. It was
  taken from
 a paper that originally appeared in the
 
 publication of ACRA (American Cultural
 
 Resources Association) in Issue
  6-5 from
 the
  year 2000, but that issue is not
 available in their
  archives, and that
 appears to have been taken
  from a paper
 presented
  at the Archaeological
  Society of Virginia's annual meeting on
 October
  3, 1998. The paper is available on
 Academia
  https://www.academia.edu/10146132/Arsenic_and_Old_Graves_Testing_Procedures_at_Nineteenth-Century_Cemeteries
  though it does not include a reference to
  arsenic presenting as blue
 
 green crystals in
  historic burials. 
 
  The
  notation
 of arsenic presenting as vivid blue or
 
 blue-green
  crystals does appear on page
 40
  of this Chicora Foundation report on
  the
  excavation of a historic
 cemetery in South Carolina
  http://www.chicora.org/pdfs/RS73%20-%20Son%20Cemetery%20compressed.pdf
  but the reference in the report is to the
 ACRA
  paper, and no specific
  examples are
  illustrated in
 the report 
 
  We have no
 specific examples of arsenic
  presenting as
 blue-green
  crystals from the
  historic period excavations conducted to date
 in
  Kentucky, but we have not encountered
 high
  concentrations of arsenic
  in any of the
  completed
 exhumations. In short, the reference appears
  to come from a single source and currently
  appears to lack any field
 
 verification that
  I can locate. If however,
 arsenic were present in
  such concentrations
 in a historic period burial
  that it did
 appear as
  a cluster of vivid
  crystals, we would be looking at a burial
 that
  constituted a haz-mat site, which
 would create
  a very different set of
  problems. 
 
  I
 do not see a good means to
  differentiate
 vivianite from possible
  arsenic
 contamination in the field aside from
 
 testing the soils
  beforehand. I would
 guess
  that, if testing shows no
 contamination of
  soils by arsenic but
 blue-green crystals appear
  on skeletal
 remains,
  you may have vivianite.
  If you do have contamination of soils from
  arsenic and crystals appear, additional -
 and
  very careful - testing
 
 of the material
  should be undertaken to
 determine its composition. 
 
  Fun stuff.
 
 
 Dan
 
  -----Original
 Message-----
 
  From:
 HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
  On
  Behalf Of Richard
 Wright
 
  Sent: Monday, April
 15, 2019 5:33 PM
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Subject: Re: Health and safety
 considerations
  for exhumations
 
  Daniel
  I did
 not know that arsenic forms blue green
 
 crystals, but then I
  have never worked
 in
  that sort of cultural environment for
 burials.
  However, I have worked on numerous
 human and
  animal sites where the
  mineral
  'vivianite'
 (an iron phosphate) forms harmless
  bluish
 crystals
  on bones and clothing.
  https://www.academia.edu/6961746/The_significance_of_vivianite_in_archaeological_settings
  [1]
  Vivianite is odd. You
 can
  expose parts of a burial and notice
 nothing
  on the surface of the bones. After
 you return
  to work from a coffee
  break you see bones
  that are
 covered with bluish crystals. The
 
 explanation is that vivianite is colorless when
  buried, but oxidizes
  on
 exposure to light
 
  Is there
 any literature on
  the blue green crystals
 of arsenic?
 
  Richard
 
  ----- Original
  Message -----
  From:
 "HISTORICAL
  ARCHAEOLOGY" 
  To:
 
  Cc:
  Sent:Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:35:11 +0000
  Subject:Re: Health and safety
 considerations
  for exhumations
 
  I
  recommend
 testing the soils around historic graves prior to
  any
  excavation to determine
 the presence of
  hazardous materials -
  especially lead,
  arsenic,
 creosote, and mercury. Take samples away
 
 from the interments to get an idea of
 
 background levels of these
  materials,
 and
  follow OSHA guidelines with respect to
 the levels of
  any of the materials that
 show up in your
  samples. 
 
  In most
 
 conditions - regular cemetery, wooden coffin, tropical to
  subtropical environment - the risk of
  infectious or contagious disease
  still being
  viable is pretty
 much non-existent. In some cases with
  good
 preservation, say above the Arctic Circle,
 
 the possibility of
  encountering viable
  contagions would increase significantly. Here
 in
  Kentucky, however, arsenic is the thing
 that I
  worry about most. It
  was used as an
  embalming
 agent for around 50 years, from around 1860
 
 to 1910, with up to 12 pounds of arsenic used
  per interment. It
  presents in
 burials as
  blue green crystals, but if you
 haven't
  prepared for it by the time you
 see it,
  you're hosed.
 
  Daniel
  B.
 Davis
  Administrative Branch Manager,
  Cultural Resources Section Kentucky
  Transportation Cabinet Division of
  Environmental Analysis
  200
 Mero Street
  Frankfort, KY 40622
  (502)
  564-7250 or (502)
 782-5013
  KYTC Archaeology
 
 and KYTC Cultural Historic
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
  From:
 HISTORICAL
  ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
  On
  Behalf Of Adrian Myers
 
  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019
 7:28 PM
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Subject: Health and safety considerations
 for
  exhumations
 
  Hi all,
 
  Can
 anyone point me to any
  articles or research
 that explore the
  issues
 
 around possible health and safety risks associated with
  exhumation of historical graves, both in
  general (e.g.
 
 lead/chemical/hazmat
  exposure, depth of
 excavations), but also
  specifically in
 relation to the possibility
  that an
 interred
  individual died of a
  communicable disease (e.g. Spanish
 Influenza).
  i.e., are there risks of
 disease transmission
  from a historical
  burial, and is there any
 
 research to back this up?
 
 
 Since so far I have nothing on it, I will also accept
 your
  informed
  anecdotes
 and opinions!
 
  Thanks
 kindly
 
  *Adrian Myers,
 PhD*
 
 
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 https://www.academia.edu/6961746/The_significance_of_vivianite_in_archaeological_settings
 
 
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