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The URL for the bottle book isn't opening for me.


On 9/11/2017 11:05 AM, WEIK, TERRANCE wrote:
> Thanks Tim!
> I¹ve been trying to find an old email to remind me of how to get to the
> archive.
> Best,
> TW
>
> Terrance Weik
> Associate Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> University of South Carolina
> see my book at
> http://www.upf.com/book.asp?id=WEIKX001
>
>
>
>
> On 9/11/17, 9:09 AM, "HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY on behalf of Timothy
> Scarlett" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> These are a few of the nuggets of information from the HISTARCH Archive.
>> After Anita¹s struggle to preserve this research tool, I suggest to
>> everyone that they both use AND CITE the source in their reports.
>> Citation shows the value of the tool to agencies and managers.
>>
>> As a reminder, here¹s how to get to the archive. in this case, I would
>> search for ³stoneware bottle² ³ginger beer² and perhaps ³bristol glaze²
>> or even ³salt glaze stoneware bottle². The results will give you a list
>> of experts to contact and sources to followŠ
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>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>> ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹
>> This publication has been out for about a year, but has not been heavily
>> promoted to date Š So I thought I would take the time to bring it to your
>> attention:
>>
>> Bottled in Illinois: Embossed Bottles and Bottled Products of Early
>> Illinois Merchants from Chicago to Cairo 1840­1880
>> Authors: Kenneth B. Farnsworth and John A. Walthall (2011, 816 pp.)
>>
>> This is a monumental work that includes over 1100 glass and stoneware
>> bottle varieties that were produced in Illinois between 1840-1800. This
>> is a hardcover volume of more than 800 pages, with approximately 3000
>> color images. Although specific to Illinois-marked and manufactured
>> specimens, the basic typology and information should be useful throughout
>> the U.S., with detailed information about containers, products, and
>> manufacturers. This not just an antique collector picture book!
>>
>> And even though I am employed by the parent firm responsible for its
>> publication, I am promoting this book simply on its merits Š A more
>> detailed description and ordering information can be found on our website:
>>
>> https://shop.inrs.illinois.edu/isas-studies.html
>> <https://shop.inrs.illinois.edu/isas-studies.html>
>>
>> Thanks for your attention,
>> ‹‹‹‹-
>>
>> Tyler et. al. (2005) state that the yellow and clear glaze used on the
>> two toned ginger beer bottles was developed in 1835 by William Powell of
>> Bristol.  This two toned glaze became the industry standard and was
>> purchased by all of the London Potters.  In 1860 Dolton developed their
>> own similar glaze.
>>
>> Tyler, K. et. al.
>> 2005	"The Dolton Stoneware Pothouse in Lambeth: Excavations at 9
>> Albert Embankment, London".  Museum of London Archaeology Service.  P.
>> 13
>> ‹‹‹‹‹
>> Askey (1981) shows the Bristol glaze in use through at least 1949 on
>> standard-shape ginger-beer bottles in Britain.  He doesn't, however,
>> address bottles for export separately.  Color was both single toned
>> (white) and two-toned.  He ends the cork seal about 1915, follows it with
>> an internal screw seal until about 1938 and ends with a crown cap in
>> 1949.  The Bristol glaze was used not only on ginger-beer bottles (with a
>> sharp shoulder) but also on ale, porter, and stout bottles in the shape
>> Askey calls "champagne" although the ones I've seen lack the distinctive
>> kick-up of the glass wine/champagnes.  In the Great Basin of Nevada I've
>> not seen the standard ginger-beer shape, but the "champagne" shape ale
>> bottles are relatively common and come in both 1 and 2 tone variations, A
>> couple with the original Guinness paper label attached were found beneath
>> Piper's Opera House in Virginia City (NV), erected in 1883.
>>
>> I've seen an additional reference (that I can't put my hands on!) that
>> ginger beer was used primarily in the eastern US and Canada.  I don't
>> remember a definition for "eastern" - in Nevada that tends to be anything
>> east of the Mississippi, when I was in Alabama it was the Atlantic
>> seaboard north of the Mason-Dixon.
>>
>> Askey, Derek.  Stoneware Bottles  From Bellarmines to Ginger Beers
>> 1500-1949.  Bowman Graphics, Brighton (UK).  P  121-122
>>
>> Also check:
>> Nigel Jeffries
>> A Biography of a Stoneware Ginger Beer Bottle: The Biucchi Brothers and
>> the Ticinese Community in Nineteenth-Century London.
>> p.57-xx in
>> Carolyn L. White, Editor
>> The Materiality of Individuality: Archaeological Studies of Individual
>> Lives. Springer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 1:20 PM, christopher.horrell
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I am looking for some information on stoneware bottles from the early
>>> 19th
>>> century. I have tons on the Ginger Beer bottles of the 1830s etc. but I
>>> need some information on those early examples (likely salt-glazed)
>>> 1800-1820s or so.  This is a little out of my league!
>>>
>>> Would any of you have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
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