Thanks, Cyler. This is helpful. I suppose it’s possible that a small, private stable would have a stall that doubles as a washing shed. Since it’s colder for longer in the northern U.S., a washing shed may not have been uncommon but just not noted on Sanborns like it was for a larger commercial establishment.
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> On Jun 19, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Cyler Conrad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hi Misty and all,
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> So sorry for the delay on this response, but I wanted to share some information from Archeo-Tec's work on the Wells Fargo & Co. stables in San Francisco. They did testing and some excavations in the mid-2000s at a site which Wells Fargo purchased for their stables sometime during the 1880s-1890s. Here is a short portion from the report (map figures attached):
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> "Sometime in the late 1880s or 1890s, Wells, Fargo & Co. purchased the lot from its previous owner and constructed a stable for its many horses and wagons. The original stable, documented on the 1899 Sanborn map (Figure 6), measured approximately 135 by 75 feet, with an approximately 11-foot wide ramp along the west side and a washing shed protruding 25 feet from the south end.
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> The Sanborn surveyor noted that the stables consisted of three stories plus a basement. The basement was used for storage, while the first floor held wagons, the second held horses, and the third held the hay, feed, and supplies for the horses. The basement was accessed via an inclined ramp along the western side of the building. A small extension of the building to the south along the eastern property boundary is labeled as a “Washing Shed.” Tucked into the washing shed area, but accessible only from the main building, is a hoist. In the right front corner, presumably of the first floor, is the harness room. A run appears to bring horses from the second floor down to the harness room."
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> The stables were apparently rebuilt after the earthquake and fire in 1906.
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> Hope this info might help!
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> All the best,
> Cyler
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> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 6:36 PM Misty Jackson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Dear HISTARCH-ers,
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> I recently uncovered a foundation along an alley at 269 Winder, Detroit that the Sanborns indicate was the location of a stable, later turned garage. The area of Detroit in which it is located was platted in the 1853 and 1862, and according to a Detroit architectural historian with whom I work, the area was one to which at least middle and possibly higher classes moved from out of old Detroit at the time. The foundation measures 11ft by 8ft and is constructed of brick for the foundation/footings and brick and sandstone flooring. The floor slopes from four directions down toward what appears to be a drain, though its base is also constructed of brick. Here is a link to a photo for those interested (you may have to paste it in your browser):
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/>>
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> I’ve showed this to other Detroit archaeologists, who have not come across anything similar. The manager of the Michigan State University Horse Teaching farm with whom I spoke recently is not familiar with 19th c. stables but said that a wood floor in stables is the norm with sometimes a drain at the rear of the stall for urine. The location of the drain at 269 Winder is near a side rather than where it seems the rear would have been, but for now the best interpretation appears to be a stable floor with a drain that would have laid under a (wood) stall floor.
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> If anyone has seen anything similar in their work or in a publication, or has a better idea of what this might have functioned as, please let me know.
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> Thanks.
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> Misty
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