I am on the B-Source line. In Europe and other places including the U.S it was said that if you marked a bee tree with your initials or by some other means you had legal claim to it even if it the bee tree was not on your land. What I find difficult to believe is WHY would you telegraph the Bee Tree to others by marking it. Someone walking in the forest would see a marked tree and take it down before the marker returned. The same would be true if you left an arrow in the tree.
The best history of how the European honey bee arrived in North America is by Tammy Horn. It seems the first successful arrival of bees was 1621 to the Jamestown colony in Va. From there by swarming and/or by trading, bees continued to expand their range from state to state. The first honey bees arrived in California by boat in 1843 where they quickly, by swarming became invasive. As you may know it is alleged that the Native Americans ( also invasives) referred to the honey bee--" As the white man's fly). Some say the Spaniards actually brought the bee here in the 1500's. But were is the proof. Actually according to Tammy Horn the first known attempt to bring bees to Jamestown ( America) was in 1609 on the ship called The Sea Venture, however on its way across the pond it encountered a hurricane and ship wreck on what is now Bermuda, as far we we know the bees failed to survive.
The first mega continent was Pangaea, and even all the flora and fauna there was not totally native because once a creature crawled out of the sea to inhabit Pangaea, we have the very first invasive. And to get crazy once a creature evolves from another , that new resident is technically an invasive too.
Taking invasive to its logically conclusion most of us would have to return to Europe and then to East Africa where according to those who know it all began. And certainly we as invasives have been the most destructive of all the invasives but personally I am glad to be here. And of all the invasives, we have the opportunity to correct within reason the damage we have done to the areas we have moved into. Best with your bees. Al
From: Kristina Williams <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [BEE-L] A different viewpoint
> He says that the warriors out on their ponies would look for bee colonies
> in trees. When one was spotted, the spotter would shoot an arrow into the
> tree by the nest to mark the location and claim it. In the winter, they'd
> come back to get the honey.
>
> Those ponies were brought by European humans, so that oral history goes
back maybe to the 1500s. Actually, the ponies were brought *back*, having
evolved here (Great Plains) and disappearing with lots of other megafauna
about the same time as the arrival of humans over the land bridge. How
long does a species have to be extirpated before it's considered
non-native? It's not inconceivable that honey bees were transported over
the land bridge too, but it seems like they would have left a signature in
the DNA of the current ferals. I say we bring back the ponies, camels,
and giant ground sloths.
I also have goldfish in my rainbarrels to eat the mosquitoes. They're
great non-toxic mosquito control, but have also become problems in some
ponds around here where they've been "set free". Do they cause more harm
than the current mosquito spray boondoggle? Bet they taste better. Not
sure about the ground sloths.
Cheers,
Kristina Williams
Boulder, CO
currently enjoying the rain in Maine
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