Thanks to Randy for challenging me to rephrase my thoughts.   
On the topic of feed and winter bees,  I didn't mean to imply that our feed is no better than it was in 1917,  but that:
 
"our knowledge of its effects and timing and best use  is no better than it was in 1917."

I ask the question,  what kind, how much and how to use,  the standard answer is non existant. In fact it appears that dry sub used per the MFg suggestions may cause more harm than good.  That added to the variety of current subs really have no guidelines for usage.

The answer so far from the experts,  is that if your pollen short it’s a help.  But your still going to get winter dwindle.  That’s what was written 100 years ago is my point.

Take that in opposition to the following
 http://mysrf.org/pdf/pdf_swine/s1.pdf
Very basic and simple,  but if you read it you will figure out we know an awful lot about the requirements for hogs.  You dig deeper and you can find data for degree days and climates also,  these charts are avalible for most domestic stock,  including rabbits.....

And that type of info for our bees is sorely lacking as I see it.

That was the point I was trying to make, hope it comes out better this time.

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