Aknowledging that honeybee were brought to the Australian continent and
accepting that what we call African or africanized honey bees comes from
"the episode at Brasil"  I do not see  why one should expect a high
dominance of african genetics within australia.

If "mean and black bees" is the symptom then clearly is A.m.m where we
should look for but not scutellata.

How is the temperament of the Punic bee, Apis intermissa that Trevor
mention?


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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 11:39 AM, randy oliver wrote:

>
> Reading the paper (and looking at the figures), I wouldn't necessarily come
> to that conclusion; neither did the authors:
>
> "It is noteworthy that these [A.m.m.] alleles have persisted in the feral
> population despite continuous input of Eastern European lineage alleles
> from the commercial population for more than 100 years. This may suggest
> that the feral population is largely independent of the commercial
> population—as has previously been noted in Western Australia (Chapman et
> al. 2008)."
>
> Also of considerable interest is why the African lines did not predominate
> in the feral population of Australia, which to my eye, appears to be highly
> favorable for Africanized bees.  Perhaps the Africans simply could not out
> compete the closely-related A.m.m's.
>
On mar. 25, 2016 1:09 PM, "Peter Loring Borst"  escribió:

> I suppose it depends on what you mean by "statistically significant." They
> wrote
>
>  While the feral population generally carries more Western European M
> alleles than the commercial population (38.64 versus 26.81 %), the
> difference is not statistically significant.
>
>
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Trevor Weatherhead wrote:

>
> The African bees, I believe, would be the Punic bee, Apis intermissa.
> These could be totally different to what we call the Africanised bees i.e.
> scutellata of which we have no record of being introduced to Australia.
> Why the Punic bee seemed to have not prevailed could be because there were
> not a lot of them produced.  There are records of them being sold here and
> debate on whether they were suitable for our conditions.  Records show they
> were mated with Italian drones.
>


On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Chris wrote:

> ", Eastern European and Western European lineages "
>
> What is meant by this?  Apis mellifera mellifera has a natural range from
> the Urals in the east to Ireland in the west.  There are several southern
> European strains,eg AM ligustica, carnica, iberica etcetera.

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