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not a road, and not historic. but an elevated path between the mounds at
Winterville, Mississippi.  Published by Jeff Brain and reprinted by
Mississippi Department of Archives and History, Jackson.



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> There are 2 messages totaling 217 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. FW: Historic roads
>   2. Historic roads (was buried alive in one)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:50:53 +0000
> From:    "Branstner, Mark C" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: FW: Historic roads
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am forwarding this question from one of our University of Illinois
> graduate students. If anyone has relevant information, please respond
> directly to HISTARCH, and I will make sure that they are forwarded to
> Jacob.  I am assuming that the answer will be of interest to others on the
> list.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mark
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> This is Jacob Skousen, one of Tim Pauketat's grad students. I'm doing my
> dissertation fieldwork at the Emerald Mound site in southern Illinois, and
> am excavating what I had hoped would be a pre-Colombian road that converges
> at the site. While there is definitely a roadway, the profiles suggest that
> the road may be historic, possibly a wagon road or trail. Do you know of
> anybody who has cut and profiled a historic roadway? It would be nice to
> have something to compare my profile to. My searches in Plains
> Anthropologist and several other journals haven't yielded anything so far,
> so I thought I'd check with you.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jacob
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
> Mark C. Branstner, RPA, AARP
>
> Senior Historical Archaeologist
>
>
> Illinois State Archaeological Survey
>
> Prairie Research Institute
>
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
> 209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
>
> 23 East Stadium Drive
>
> Champaign, IL 61820
>
>
> Phone: 217.244.0892
>
> Fax: 217.244.7458
>
> Cell: 217.549.6990
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
> "The difference between genius and idiocy? Genius has its limits."  --
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>
> From: Jacob Skousen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >>
> Reply-To: Jacob Skousen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>>
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:35 AM
> To: "Branstner, Mark" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >>
> Subject: Historic roads
>
> Hi Mark,
> This is Jacob Skousen, one of Tim Pauketat's grad students. I'm doing my
> dissertation fieldwork at the Emerald site in southern Illinois, and am
> excavating what I had hoped would be a pre-Colombian road that converges at
> the site. While there is definitely a roadway, the profiles suggest that
> the road may be historic, possibly a wagon road or trail. Do you know of
> anybody who has cut and profiled a historic roadway? It would be nice to
> have something to compare my profile to. My searches in Plains
> Anthropologist and several other journals haven't yielded anything so far,
> so I thought I'd check with you.
> Thanks!
> Jacob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:24:34 -0400
> From:    Charley and Mary Ellen Hodges <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Historic roads (was buried alive in one)
>
> Hi Mark:
>
> In between 1973-1974, The College of William excavated "Great Valley Road"
> in Yorktown,  Virginia an 18th and 19th century road.  This road went from
> an elevated bluff near the Nelson House down to a warehouse zone near the
> old waterfront and likely traversed an "improved" old natural ravine.   The
> road was supposed to have been paved with wasters from the William Roger's
> Pottery Kiln but this proved to be an exaggeration. I remember more broken
> wine bottles and oyster shells than anything  The actual road bed clearly
> meandered somewhat and a few wagon ruts could be seen.  There should be
> detailed profile drawing on file at the Department of Anthropology at
> William and Mary and  the National Park Service should have copies of this
> and any associated reports.
>
> I remember this dig  quite well since when I was kneeling to draw the
> profile of one of our test cuts - without any sound or warning - I was
> buried alive.  The crew tried to pull me out but that didn't work
> (ferocious
> joint pain for openers)  so I had to be literally excavated out.
>  Mercifully
> they used trowels and not shovels.
>
> Best wishes,
> Charley Hodges
> Consulting Archaeologist to WMCAR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Branstner, Mark C
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: Historic roads
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am forwarding this question from one of our University of Illinois
> graduate students. If anyone has relevant information, please respond
> directly to HISTARCH, and I will make sure that they are forwarded to
> Jacob.
> I am assuming that the answer will be of interest to others on the list.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mark
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> This is Jacob Skousen, one of Tim Pauketat's grad students. I'm doing my
> dissertation fieldwork at the Emerald Mound site in southern Illinois, and
> am excavating what I had hoped would be a pre-Colombian road that converges
> at the site. While there is definitely a roadway, the profiles suggest that
> the road may be historic, possibly a wagon road or trail. Do you know of
> anybody who has cut and profiled a historic roadway? It would be nice to
> have something to compare my profile to. My searches in Plains
> Anthropologist and several other journals haven't yielded anything so far,
> so I thought I'd check with you.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jacob
>
>
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
> Mark C. Branstner, RPA, AARP
>
> Senior Historical Archaeologist
>
>
> Illinois State Archaeological Survey
>
> Prairie Research Institute
>
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
> 209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
>
> 23 East Stadium Drive
>
> Champaign, IL 61820
>
>
> Phone: 217.244.0892
>
> Fax: 217.244.7458
>
> Cell: 217.549.6990
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
> "The difference between genius and idiocy? Genius has its limits."  --
> Albert Einstein
>
>
>
> From: Jacob Skousen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >>
> Reply-To: Jacob Skousen
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:35 AM
> To: "Branstner, Mark" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >>
> Subject: Historic roads
>
> Hi Mark,
> This is Jacob Skousen, one of Tim Pauketat's grad students. I'm doing my
> dissertation fieldwork at the Emerald site in southern Illinois, and am
> excavating what I had hoped would be a pre-Colombian road that converges at
> the site. While there is definitely a roadway, the profiles suggest that
> the
> road may be historic, possibly a wagon road or trail. Do you know of
> anybody
> who has cut and profiled a historic roadway? It would be nice to have
> something to compare my profile to. My searches in Plains Anthropologist
> and
> several other journals haven't yielded anything so far, so I thought I'd
> check with you.
> Thanks!
> Jacob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of HISTARCH Digest - 23 Jun 2014 to 24 Jun 2014 (#2014-117)
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