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I forgot to mention that a VRS system will either be very suitable or not
at all, depending on where you do your archaeology!

GP

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:05 PM Gísli Pálsson <[log in to unmask]>
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> Thanks for starting this discussion Tim, and I hope it doesn't get too
> bogged down by people who feel the need to flash their analogue credentials.
>
> Our experience in Iceland is that the total station technology is more or
> less the same as it was 10 years ago, with the main development being in
> surface scanning for standing features and in the integration with more
> powerful data loggers. I'd say the biggest development in the digitization
> of field survey is the move away from point-based topographic survey to
> drone photogrammetry accompanied by ground control point survey.
>
> The establishment of VRS networks by Trimble (and I presume their
> competitors) means you are less likely to have to invest in a two-sensor
> DGPS system. We use Trimble GeoExplorers which you can get either with an
> RTK subscription for real-time accuracy, or post-process the survey data
> using their proprietary software. Spits out shapefiles and other spatial
> data formats.
>
> There are a few custom-built apps here in Europe that capture data in
> formats for easy migration into spatial SQL databases, like IntraSIS (a
> proprietary PostGIS interface). I'd be really interested in hearing how
> US-based contract archaeologists are integrating field capture with their
> wider data management practices.
>
> GP
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:51 PM John Foster <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I tend to draft all relevant field notes and graphics by hand.  I can't
>> afford failure in the field.  John Foster, RPAPresident
>> Greenwood-Associates.com
>> Greenwood and Associates
>> 310.717.5048
>>
>>       From: Timothy Scarlett <[log in to unmask]>
>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>  Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:04 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Digital Survey gear
>>
>> I love measuring and drawing by hand. Don’t get me wrong. Drafting is a
>> deeply satisfying activity for me during fieldwork.
>>
>> My question is not intended to open the digital vs. analog debate, which
>> is entirely pointless in 2018. I find it valuable to measure and draw by
>> hand and also to use LiDAR scans with sub-millimeter accuracy.
>>
>> Different tools, each with it’s advantages and disadvantages.
>>
>> I want to know what crews are using the professional field these days.
>>
>> THanks
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 2, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Carl Steen <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I agree with Richard, but would like to hear what other list members
>> have to say. I know of people experimenting with using cheap smartphones as
>> data collectors, but as I understand it, the results were variable.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/2/2018 12:44 PM, Richard Lundin wrote:
>> >> Tim:
>> >>
>> >> Being VERY old fashioned, I  and the rather elderly WRI Crew Members
>> still,
>> >> EFFECTIVELY, use my plane table and alidade for geological mapping and
>> >> geophysical surveys. I train students on how to use it just as fast as
>> as
>> >> the EDM systems and you have a paper map that shows you if have done
>> the
>> >> work correctly and the relationships between the various survey points
>> and
>> >> features, IMMEDIATELY.
>> >>
>> >> It is great for work in other, less tech countries and WILL NOT go down
>> >> from lack of the correct batteries or an EMP.
>> >>
>> >> So, get the new stuff, BUT, keep the old systems handy. YOU, MAY need
>> them
>> >> if things go bad as history says they will!
>> >>
>> >> Rich Lundin, WRI
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 8:43 AM Timothy Scarlett <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>> It is time to replace our digital survey equipment and I need advice.
>> We
>> >>> have been using 10-15 year old total station and handheld gps units.
>> Those
>> >>> still work, but really need to be replaced with newer gear.
>> >>>
>> >>> For those working in CRM, what geospatial devices/instruments are you
>> >>> using in the field with your crews? What do you like/dislike?
>> >>> I’d like our students to learn to use the types of gear that they will
>> >>> actually use when they take positions with companies and agencies.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Tim Scarlett
>> >>> Michigan Tech
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