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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Carl Steen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Branstner, Mark C <[log in to unmask]>
> To: HISTARCH <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 1:23 pm
> Subject: Re: National Geographic show
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> Tim's initiative seems a reasonable one ... No matter how they parse the
> distinctions between their non-profit and for-profit entities, the
> National Geographic Society is not the institution that it once was, and
> it needs to be publicly sanctioned by the professional communities that
> formerly supported them.
> ___________________________________
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> Mark C. Branstner, RPA, AARP
> Senior Historical Archaeologist
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> Illinois State Archaeological Survey
> Prairie Research Institute
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> 209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
> 23 East Stadium Drive
> Champaign, IL 61820
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> Phone: 217.244.0892
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> "The difference between genius and idiocy? Genius has its limits."  --
> Albert Einstein
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> On 3/28/14 11:36 AM, "Susan Walter" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> >I wonder, how many of us still subscribe to National Geographic?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Timothy Scarlett" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:44 AM
> >Subject: Re: National Geographic show
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> >
> >I now have very serious concerns about the relationship between National
> >Geographic and archaeological professionals.
> >
> >Nat Geo, despite the well-reasoned concerns voiced by every single
> >professional organization in this field, continues to move toward
> >programming that glorifies the commodification of artifacts. This is a
> >very=20
> >clear and unambiguous violation of professional codes of conduct.
> >
> >While National Geographic is a major corporate brand with separate
> >divisions=20
> >and/or a not-for-profit wing, creating a legal distinction between its
> >for-profit activities vs. research activities, at this point there
> >remains=20
> >no significant distinction between National Geographic as a corporate
> >organization and any other treasure hunting or organization.
> >
> >All professional archaeological organizations must move quickly to
> >consider=20
> >this issue and consider blocking all research or sponsored by National
> >Geographic from presentations at the annual meetings and publication in
> >their journals, book series, and/or web-based venues.
> >
> >Doing anything less at this point creates liability in the differential
> >treatment of "edu-tainment" and other not-for-profit salvage companies.
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> >addition, we risk diluting our "brand" in the public perception of
> >professional archaeological research and management and these popular
> >dig-for-money-and-glory operations.
> >
> >We either hold this ethical value in professional practice, or we do not.
> >Nat Geo is moving past the gray area and there must be consequences.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Tim
> >
> >
> >On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Kris Oswald wrote:
> >
> >> Trying to compete with shows like Diggers and every other worthless
> >> Reality show now on the market
> >> Go to eBay and search out for WW2 German, you will find pages of dug
> >> relics coming from overseas , Latvia and Poland
> >> To name a few along with total fakes reproduced and sold as original
> >> items. They are flooding and feeding the internet market
> >> As we speak .. Antique dealers that sell Cemetery military metal
> >> service markers as well are in the same league  ..Grave robbers!
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> >> Davis, Daniel (KYTC)
> >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:27 AM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: National Geographic show
> >>
> >> What's happened to the folks at NatGeo? Has some kind of reality-TV
> >> brain-eating virus infected their staff?
> >>
> >> Daniel B. Davis
> >> Archaeologist Coordinator
> >> Kentucky Transportation Cabinet
> >> Division of Environmental Analysis
> >> 200 Mero Street
> >> Frankfort, KY 40622
> >> (502) 564-7250 or (502) 782-5013
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> >> geoff carver
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:21 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: FW: National Geographic show
> >>
> >> OK: someone started a petition:
> >>
> https://www.change.org/petitions/the-national-geographic-channel-the-tra
> >> vel-
> >> channel-spike-tv-stop-airing-their-digger-programs-3
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>
> >> Ouch. Does anyone else think these two statements are compatible...?
> >>
> >> " Untold numbers of soldiers and their weapons remain buried across the
> >> vast landscape of World War Two's Eastern Front. Three war diggers are
> >> racing against time to save this history from being looted or lost."
> >>
> >> "No period of history is left untouched. Kris has dug up Iron Age
> >> relics, Roman coins and lots of WW2 / Battle of Britain artifacts,
> >> including regimental badges. It was only through metal detecting that
> >> Kris became obsessed about the history that surrounds all of us."
> >>
> >>
> >> They do provide a page on their site about "Responsible Metal
> >> Detecting"...
> >> http://natgeotv.com/za/nazi-war-diggers/responsible-metal-detecting
> >> but I don't see anything about professional archaeological methods, or
> >> where these finds will end up.
> >>
> >> Does Latvia have unusually lax heritage protection laws...?
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